On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Derick Rethans <der...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Gav... wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Derick Rethans wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Jerome Renard wrote:
>> >
>> > > I started to create an Ant based version of the Makefile available in
>> > > website/
>> > >
>> > > The problem with the Makefile is that it does not work at all on Mac
>> > > Os X and is kind of hard to read.
>> >
>> > I am afraid that nobody else uses Ant here, so I would oppose that.
>>
>> Have you asked every user of Zetacomponents whether or not they use
>> Ant? Where are the emails and replies for that?
>
> This is not a user thing; it's something to maintain the website of this
> project. So this is irrelevant.
>
>> This is an open source project in an open source world housed at an
>> open source organisation. You cannot oppose volunteers scratching
>> their own itch. If jerome wants to provide an Ant alternative I do not
>> see the harm.
>
> I do. If you move away from something that we call can maintain, so
> something that less people can maintain, I think that's the wrong
> direction.
>
>> If Jerome then wants to replace Make with Ant then that is another
>> matter but still something that 'you' personally cannot oppose, that
>> is a decision for the Podling PMC or the Incubator PMC, no one person
>> has power here and the sooner folks realise this the sooner you might
>> start attracting those> new committers your board report said you
>> needed.
>
> Of course I can oppose to replacing Make with Ant. It simple means I am
> stating that I am against it:
>
>        op·pose
>         /əˈpoʊz/ Show Spelled [uh-pohz] verb, -posed, -pos·ing.
>
>        –verb (used with object)
>        1. to act against or provide resistance to; combat.> --
> And new committers we need for code, that's for sure.
>
> cheers,
> Derick
>

Anyway it's ASF here, let's look for consensus :)
Julien

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