Erik Trimble wrote:
> Brian Hechinger wrote:
>   
>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 03:02:43PM -0700, Erik Trimble wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Unfortunately, we need to be careful here with our terminology.
>>>     
>>>       
>> You are completely and 100% correct, Erik.  I've been throwing the
>> term SSD around, but in the context of what I'm thinking, by SSD I
>> mean this new-fangled flash based SSD.
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> In this case, I think we want the DRAM SSDs.
>>>     
>>>       
>> Yes, yes you do.  I know I say this all the time, and I'm sure you're all
>> getting tired of me, but I *really* wish Gigabyte (or *ANYONE ELSE*, ahem,
>> Sun, *cough*) would produce something similar to the iRAM, but with 3.0Gpbs
>> SATA/SAS and possibly more space, or at least newer, easier to find RAM.
>>
>> That would make me *extremely* happy. ;)
>>
>> I wish I had the money to bankroll something like that.  But sadly, I don't.
>>
>> -brian
>>   
>>     
>
> There's a small laundry list of things that I really wish I could find 
> some VC capital for (not much, either, may $1m at most), much of which 
> exists right now, but very feature poor/horribly overpriced:
>
> * PCI-card based RAM disk (ala iRAM), with 6-8 slots, NiCad battery, and 
> SATA II interface
>   

Batteries are bad news.  As Jonathan says, "The better SSDs combine *
Flash* with *DRAM* and a *supercapacitor* to buffer synchronous writes."
http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/not_a_*flash*_in_the

> * 3.5" LP disk form-factor RAM disk, SCSI Hotswap or SATA2 interface
>   

Parallel SCSI is dead.  The hot swappable SAS/SATA interfaces are
good and inexpensive.

> * 5.25" CDROM-form-factor RAM disk, as above
>   

CD-ROMs are dead.  With the size of slim DVDs today, you wouldn't
be able to put much space in them.

> * 3.5" LP disk form factor, SCSI hotswap/SATA2 and 4-8 Compact Flash 
> card slots
> * Huge RAM drive in a 1U small case (ala Cisco 2500-series routers), 
> with SAS or FC attachment.
> * 2.5" (or 1.8") drive on a PCI-card
>
> And, of course, the holy grail:   a socket 940 Opteron with AMD-V 
> hardware extensions. :-)
>
>   

This week, Verident announced a system using Spansion EcoRAMs
(DRAM + NOR Flash on a DIMM form factor) for main memory.
This is almost getting there, but seems to require some special OS
support, which is not surprising.  The holy grail is fast, non-volatile
main memory -- and we can forget all about "disks" :-)
 -- richard

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