my last contribution to this thread (and there was much rejoicing!)

Miles Nordin wrote:
>>>>>> "re" == Richard Elling <richard.ell...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>             
>
>     re> The reason is that zfs send/recv has very good application,
>     re> even in the backup space.  There are, in fact, many people
>     re> using it.
>
> [...]
>
>     re> ZFS send is not an archival solution.  You should use an
>     re> archival method which is appropriate for your business
>     re> requirements.  Note: "method" above, not product or command.
>
> well, I think most backups are archival.

Disagree.  Archives tend to not be overwritten, ever.  Backups have all
sorts of management schemes to allow the backup media to be reused.

>   If we start arguing about
> words, I think everyone's lost interest long ago.  But I do think to
> protect oneself from bad surprises it would be good to never archive
> the output of 'zfs send', only use it to move data from one place to
> another.
>
> yes, backup ``method'', moving data from one place to another is often
> part of backup and can be done safely with 'zfs send | zfs recv', but
> without a specific warning people will imagine something's safe which
> isn't, when you say the phrase ``use zfs send for backup''.
>
>     re> CR 6764193 was fixed in b105
>
>     >> I read someone ran into it when importing a pool, too, not just
>     >> when using 'zfs send'.  so hopefully that fix came for free at
>     >> the same time.
>
>     re> Perhaps your memory needs to be using checksum=sha256 :-) I do
>     re> not recall such a conversation or bug.
>
> fine, here you go:
>
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2008-December/053894.html
>   

Bzzt.  Thanks for playing.  That is:
    re> CR 6764193 was fixed in b105
    re> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6764193 Is
    re> there another?

 -- richard

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