On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Bruno Sousa wrote:

Hi all,

I fully understand that within a cost effective point of view, developing the fishworks for a reduced set of hardware makes , alot, of sense. However, i think that Sun/Oracle would increase their user base if they make availabe a Fishwork framework certified only for a reduced set of hardware, ie :
        • it needs Western Digital HDD firmware version x.y.z
• it needs a SAS/SATA controller from a specific brand, model and firmare ( LSI SAS1068E )
        • if SSD's are used they need to be from vendor X with firmware Y
• the system motherboard chipset needs to be from vendor X or Y and not from Z

Do not underestimate the cost and complexity of maintaining compatibility
matrices (I call them "sparse matrices" for a reason :-)

Within this possible landscape i'm pretty sure that alot more customers would pay for the Fishworks stack and support, given the fact that not all customers "need" aKa can afford, the Unified Storage platform from Sun.

There are competitors delivered as software-only: NexentaStor seems to be
well designed and EON is progressing nicely.
 -- richard


Anyway..Fishworks it's an awesome product! Congratulations for the extreme good job.

Regards,
Bruno

Adam Leventhal wrote:

With that said I'm concerned that there appears to be a fork between the opensource version of ZFS and ZFS that is part of the Sun/Oracle FishWorks 7nnn series appliances. I understand (implicitly) that Sun (/Oracle) as a commercial concern, is free to choose their own priorities in terms of how they use their own IP (Intellectual Property) - in this case, the source for the ZFS filesystem.

Hey Al,

I'm unaware of specific plans for management either at Sun or at Oracle, but from an engineering perspective suffice it to say that it is simpler and therefore more cost effective to develop for a single, unified code base, to amortize the cost of testing those modifications, and to leverage the enthusiastic ZFS community to assist with the development and testing of ZFS.

Again, this isn't official policy, just the simple facts on the ground from engineering.

I'm not sure what would lead you to believe that there is fork between the open source / OpenSolaris ZFS and what we have in Fishworks. Indeed, we've made efforts to make sure there is a single ZFS for the reason stated above. Any differences that exist are quickly migrated to ON as you can see from the consistent work of Eric Schrock.

Adam

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Adam Leventhal, Fishworks                        http://blogs.sun.com/ahl

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