On Feb 26, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Eric D. Mudama wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25 at 20:21, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010, Alastair Neil wrote:
>> 
>>> I do not know and I don't think anyone would deploy a system in that way 
>>> with UFS. 
>>> This is the model that is imposed in order to take full advantage of zfs 
>>> advanced
>>> features such as snapshots, encryption and compression and I know many 
>>> universities
>>> in particular are eager to adopt it for just that reason, but are stymied 
>>> by this
>>> problem.
>> 
>> It was not really a serious question but it was posed to make a point. 
>> However, it would be interesting to know if there is another type of 
>> filesystem (even on Linux or some other OS) which is able to reasonably and 
>> efficiently support 16K mounted and exported file systems.
>> 
>> Eventually Solaris is likely to work much better for this than it does 
>> today, but most likely there are higher priorities at the moment.
> 
> I agree with the above, but the best practices guide:
> 
> http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#ZFS_file_service_for_SMB_.28CIFS.29_or_SAMBA
> 
> states in the SAMBA section that "Beware that mounting 1000s of file
> systems, will impact your boot time".  I'd say going from a 2-3 minute
> boot time to a 4+ hour boot time is more than just "impact".  That's
> getting hit by a train.

The shares are more troublesome than the mounts.  

> 
> Might be useful for folks, if the above document listed a few concrete
> datapoints of boot time scaling with the number of filesystems or
> something similar.

Gory details and timings are available in the many references to CR 6850837
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6850837
 -- richard

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