On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 08:42:33PM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 10:23 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> > In theory, collisions happen.  In practice, given a cryptographic hash,
> > if you can find two different blocks or files that produce the same
> > output, please publicise it widely as you have broken that hash function.
> 
> Not necessarily.  While you *should* publicize it widely, given all the
> possible text that we have, and all the other variants, its
> theoretically possibly to get likely.  Like winning a lottery where
> everyone else has a million tickets, but you only have one.
> 
> Such an occurrence -- if isolated -- would not, IMO, constitute a
> 'breaking' of the hash function.

A hash function is broken when we know how to create colliding
inputs.  A random collision does not a break make, though it might,
perhaps, help figure out how to break the hash function later.

Nico
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