On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 08:14:24PM -0400, Miles Nordin wrote:
>     >> Can the user in (3) fix the permissions from Windows?
> 
> no, not under my proposal.

Then your proposal is a non-starter.  Support for multiple remote
filesystem access protocols is key for ZFS and Solaris.

The impedance mismatches between these various protocols means that we
need to make some trade-offs.  In this case I think the business (as
well as the engineers involved) would assert that being a good SMB
server is critical, and that being able to authoritatively edit file
permissions via SMB clients is part of what it means to be a good SMB
server.

Now, you could argue that we should being aclmode back and let the user
choose which trade-offs to make.  And you might propose new values for
aclmode or enhancements to the groupmask setting of aclmode.

> but it sounds like currently people cannot ``fix'' permissions through
> the quirky autotranslation anyway, certainly not to the point where
> neither unix nor windows users are confused: windows users are always
> confused, and unix users don't get to see all the permissions.

Thus the current behavior is the same as the old aclmode=discard
setting.

>     >> Now what?
> 
> set the unix perms to 777 as a sign to the unix people to either (a)
> leave it alone, or (b) learn to use 'chmod A...'.  This will actually
> work: it's not a hand-waving hypothetical that just doesn't play out.

That's not an option, not for a default behavior anyways.

Nico
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