Well that's one point of view and choice.
I'm sure those you refer to are far more knowledgeable than any other
I can only speak for myself. I have intentionally attempted to destroy data for
years under ZFS, amazingly enough all data is always recoverable. I have
intentionally stayed away from protected RAM to ensure data for clients is
So back to trolling. Let's be honest, if you were not trolling you would have
started a new thread for people to discuss your views.
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> On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:56 PM, Philip Robar <philip.ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please note, I'm not trolling with this message. I worked in Sun's OS/Net
> group and am a huge fan of ZFS.
> The leading members of the FreeNAS community make it clear  (with a
> detailed explanation and links to reports of data loss) that if you use ZFS
> without ECC RAM that there is a very good chance that you will eventually
> experience a total loss of your data without any hope of recovery. 
> (Unless you have literally thousands of dollars to spend on that recovery.
> And even then there's no guarantee of said recovery.) The features of ZFS,
> checksumming and scrubbing, work together to silently spread the damage done
> by cosmic rays and/or bad memory throughout a file system and this corruption
> then spreads to your backups.
> Given this, aren't the various ZFS communities--particularly those that are
> small machine oriented --other than FreeNAS (and even they don't say it as
> strongly enough in their docs), doing users a great disservice by implicitly
> encouraging them to use ZFS w/o ECC RAM or on machines that can't use ECC RAM?
> As an indication of how persuaded I've been for the need of ECC RAM, I've
> shut down my personal server and am not going to access that data until I've
> built a new machine with ECC RAM.
>  ECC vs non-ECC RAM and ZFS:
>  cyberjock: "So when you read about how using ZFS is an "all or none" I'm
> not just making this up. I'm really serious as it really does work that way.
> ZFS either works great or doesn't work at all. That really truthfully [is]
> how it works."
>  ZFS-macos, NAS4Free, PC-BSD, ZFS on Linux
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