I looked through your thread, but I almost always tell people - "STOP using 
Windows unless its in a VM". ;)

Not enough info in your thread to actually help you with the VM. What are the 
Guest settings? What drives are actually assigned to what, scripts are only 
useful after you setup something functional.

As for the NAT issue thread, I don't think its an issue so much a misconception 
how it works in relation to the parts in question, specifically Windows, the VM 
and the Guest. I have never really had issues like this but I've never tried 
with parts your using in the sequence described. As for why it might not 
work... The Guest settings info might be relevant here as well.


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> On Apr 1, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Eric <naisa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> haha train away!
> 
> This is what I'm trying to do for my own needs. Issues or no issues, I 
> haven't seen it done before. So, I'm reaching out to anyone. Mac or not, I'm 
> just asking from one IT professional to another, is this possible, and if 
> not, why not? (that's just how I feel)
> 
> I'm assuming the complications you mean are the ways FreeBSD behaves when 
> running specifically in VBox under Windows, because that's what I'm trying to 
> figure out.
> 
> Details are in the forum post, but yes, it's a clean setup with a dedicated 
> vdi for the os. Networking shouldn't be related, but it's working as well.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Jason Belec <jasonbe...@belecmartin.com> 
>> wrote:
>> OK. So your running Windows, asking questions on the MacZFS list. That's 
>> going to cause problems right out of the gate. And your asking about FreeBSD 
>> running under VirtualBox for issues with ZFS. 
>> 
>> I know it's not nice, bit I'm laughing myself purple. This is going to make 
>> it into my training sessions. 
>> 
>> The only advice I can give you at this point is you have made a very 
>> complicated situation for yourself. Back up and start with Windows, ensure 
>> networking us functions. Then a clean VM of FreeBSD make sure networking is 
>> functioning however you want it to. Now setup ZFS where you may have to 
>> pre-set/create devices just for the VM to utilize so that OS's are not 
>> fighting for the same drive(s)/space. 
>> 
>> 
>> Jason
>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 12:03 PM, Eric <naisa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the details on the setup posted to virtualbox's forums, here: 
>>> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60975
>>> 
>>> Essentially, I'm running ZFS on FreeBSD10 in VBox running in Windows 7. 
>>> Rather than the other way around. I think I mentioned that earlier
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just created a short post about the NAT Network issue, here: 
>>> https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60992
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Jason Belec <jasonbe...@belecmartin.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I run over 30 instances of Virtualbox with various OSs without issue all 
>>>> running ontop of ZFS environments. Most of my clients have at least 3 VMs 
>>>> running a variant of Windows ontop of ZFS without any issues. Not sure 
>>>> what you mean with your NAT issue. Perhaps posting your setup info might 
>>>> be of more help.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Eric Jaw <naisa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 7:04:39 AM UTC-4, jasonbelec wrote:
>>>>>> ZFS is lots of parts, in most cases lots of cheap unreliable parts, 
>>>>>> refurbished parts, yadda yadda, as posted on this thread and many, many 
>>>>>> others, any issues are probably not ZFS but the parts of the whole. Yes, 
>>>>>> it could be ZFS, after you confirm that all the parts ate pristine, 
>>>>>> maybe. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think it's ZFS. ZFS is pretty solid. In my specific case, I'm 
>>>>> trying to figure out why VirtualBox is creating these issues. I'm pretty 
>>>>> sure that's the root cause, but I don't know why yet. So I'm just 
>>>>> speculating at this point. Of course, I want to get my ZFS up and running 
>>>>> so I can move on to what I really need to do, so it's easy to jump on a 
>>>>> conclusion about something that I haven't thought of in my position. Hope 
>>>>> you can understand
>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My oldest system running ZFS is an Mac Mini Intel Core Duo with 3GB RAM 
>>>>>> (not ECC) it is the home server for music, tv shows, movies, and some 
>>>>>> interim backups. The mini has been modded for ESATA and has 6 drives 
>>>>>> connected. The pool is 2 RaidZ of 3 mirrored with copies set at 2. Been 
>>>>>> running since ZFS was released from Apple builds. Lost 3 drives, 
>>>>>> eventually traced to a new cable that cracked at the connector which 
>>>>>> when hot enough expanded lifting 2 pins free of their connector counter 
>>>>>> parts resulting in errors. Visually almost impossible to see. I replaced 
>>>>>> port multipliers, Esata cards, RAM, mini's, power supply, reinstalled 
>>>>>> OS, reinstalled ZFS, restored ZFS data from backup, finally to find the 
>>>>>> bad connector end one because it was hot and felt 'funny'. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Frustrating, yes, educational also. The happy news is, all the data was 
>>>>>> fine, wife would have torn me to shreds if photos were missing, music 
>>>>>> was corrupt, etc., etc.. And this was on the old out of date but stable 
>>>>>> ZFS version we Mac users have been hugging onto for dear life. YMMV
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Never had RAM as the issue, here in the mad science lab across 10 
>>>>>> rotating systems or in any client location - pick your decade. However I 
>>>>>> don't use cheap RAM either, and I only have 2 Systems requiring ECC 
>>>>>> currently that don't even connect to ZFS as they are both XServers with 
>>>>>> other lives.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2014, at 12:13 AM, Daniel Becker <razz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Eric Jaw <nais...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I started using ZFS about a few weeks ago, so a lot of it is still new 
>>>>>>>> to me. I'm actually not completely certain about "proper procedure" 
>>>>>>>> for repairing a pool. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to clear the errors 
>>>>>>>> after the scrub, before or after (little things). I'm not sure if it 
>>>>>>>> even matters. When I restarted the VM, the checksum counts cleared on 
>>>>>>>> its own.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The counts are not maintained across reboots.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On the first scrub it repaired roughly 1.65MB. None on the second 
>>>>>>>> scub. Even after the scrub there were still 43 data errors. I was 
>>>>>>>> expecting they were going to go away.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> errors: 43 data errors, use '-v' for a list
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What this means is that in these 43 cases, the system was not able to 
>>>>>>> correct the error (i.e., both drives in a mirror returned bad data).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is an excellent question. They're in 'Normal' mode. I remember 
>>>>>>>> looking in to this before and decided normal mode should be fine. I 
>>>>>>>> might be wrong. So thanks for bringing this up. I'll have to check it 
>>>>>>>> out again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The reason I was asking is that these symptoms would also be consistent 
>>>>>>> with something outside the VM writing to the disks behind the VM’s 
>>>>>>> back; that’s unlikely to happen accidentally with disk images, but raw 
>>>>>>> disks are visible to the host OS as such, so it may be as simple as 
>>>>>>> Windows deciding that it should initialize the “unformatted” (really, 
>>>>>>> formatted with an unknown filesystem) devices. Or it could be a raid 
>>>>>>> controller that stores its array metadata in the last sector of the 
>>>>>>> array’s disks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> memtest86 and memtest86+ for 18 hours came out okay. I'm on my third 
>>>>>>>> scrub and the number or errors has remained at 43. Checksum errors 
>>>>>>>> continue to pile up as the pool is getting scrubbed.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm just as flustered about this. Thanks again for the input.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Given that you’re seeing a fairly large number of errors in your 
>>>>>>> scrubs, the fact that memtest86 doesn’t find anything at all very 
>>>>>>> strongly suggests that this is not actually a memory issue.
>>>>>>> 
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