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Hi James, Am 20.05.14 21:32, schrieb James Hoyt: > So it sounds like I need to recreate my zpool ... > > "Logical Block Size" = 512 "Physical Block Size" = 4096 > > So I should use the following command on my next zpool to help > finder performance and make it compatible for 4k drives? > > zfs create -o normalization=formD atime=off murr ashift=12 (let me > know if I have any errors in this) Almost. As said in my other mail an hour ago, "normalization" doesn't exist in the stable MacZFS version. Also each option needs its own "-o" and ashift is a pool option, not a file system option. You do "zpool create -o ashift=12 -O atime=off murr _devices_ ..." Note the capital "-O" and the small letter "-o". And for subsequent file systems (datasets in ZFS language) you use "zfs create -o atime=off _pool_name/fs_name_" If you used the development version, then you would add a "-O normalization=formD" in the zpool command and a "-o normalization=formD" in the zfs command. Best regards Björn > > As for the slowness in a VM, Mac file sharing would affect it > because Windows 8 accesses the drives with Fusion by mounting > \\jamess-imac\Volumes\murr as the Z drive so it technically is a > file share if that's what you mean. But it could also be because > the slowness of not using a 4k compatible zpool is compounded with > a virtual machine. (Could someone updated the getting started guide > to have you create a 4k zpool by default?) > > Thanks for the advice on Songbird! I may try it if it can organize > via masks and support custom ID3 fields. I saw it's discontinued > though but it's still on SourceForge. > > I'm at work so can't give a better reply but I have a lot more to > look into and read now =) > > - James > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:07 PM, 'Busty' via zfs-macos > <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: >> James, >> >> I use my 15TB pool mainly for flac files too, so I thought I'd >> throw in my two cents (even if some is not zfs related): >> >> regarding iTunes recognizing flac: There is a quicktime component >> that will enable flac in quicktime, iirc it also works in itunes, >> at least you can get it too. But it will not play gapless, there >> is an amount of silence between songs. >> >> Another thing is called "TwistedFlac", which in a folder you can >> specify shows all flac files as wave files. These can be imported >> into iTunes, the downside is that the tags are not recognized. >> >> Just in case that helps with your library. I use songbird, which >> can about anything you want, but is not as stable as iTunes. >> >> Regarding your files showing up very slow, I experience that when >> I access my files on the pool from a remote machine which has to >> do with AFP (Apple filesharing protocol), so I have set up a NFS >> share. But you don'T writ eabout accessing the files from a a >> remote machine, so this should not be your issue. >> >> I kinda went the way you did. I had no knowledge of zfs but >> really wanted the features for data safety. That was roughly 3-4 >> years ago. As I set up my pool (and my backup, by the way), I >> came across all kinds of problems (drives vanishing, kernel >> panics, slow file browsing, scripts to automate backups and >> scrubs, you name it) which had to be solved, so I had a lot of >> reading and googling to do. I kinda was fooled by the MacZFS >> tutorial into thinking that this will be completely easy like >> you describe. >> >> These guys, in the front row Jason and Alex Blewitt and Bjoern >> helped me a lot to get on the way (so thanks again guys) >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> On 20.05.14 20:28, James Hoyt wrote: >>> Hi Bjorn thanks for your reply and thanks for your help Jason >>> in all this. I've actually been in the IT industry for 12 >>> years, A+ certified, and currently pursuing my CCNA and MCSA so >>> a technical setup didn't intimidate me. (granted servers are a >>> new beast to me) I came across Mac ZFS while researching RAID >>> options. As I'm getting new music in wav/flac daily from a >>> number of sources, a manual backup system really wouldn't work >>> for me as it's too hard to keep up. I tried once with a blu-ray >>> writer and it was a nightmare.. plus I'm regularly categorizing >>> music with MediaMonkey (why I have a virtual machine because >>> it's Windows only... oh why won't iTunes support FLAC >>> natively!) so all the tracks are updated now and then. So I >>> thought an offsite backup that's updated every few months along >>> with a four-drive RAID setup with one drive for redundancy >>> would be all that I would need. >>> >>> MacZFS.org is well put together and the tutorials isn't >>> intimidating at all. Run a few terminal commands? I can do >>> that. The depth of ZFS wasn't really covered nor did it really >>> state that more research is needed (like if I need 4k setup.. >>> or whatever that is D: ) So it's rather frustrating to just >>> find out I moved all my data off my individual 2/1.5 TB drives >>> to find out I did it wrong when I was careful, very careful, to >>> follow the Getting Started guide and FAQ precisely. >>> >>> Bleh D: >>> >>> Jason, I apologize for coming out rough. I felt like I was >>> being treated like a lazy moron, which I'm not. I've researched >>> a variety of RAID solutions quite a bit and thought I was all >>> setup for ZFS and just had to change some configurations to >>> speed it up. I'm sure you weren't born with this knowledge and >>> needed the help of others to guide you in the right direction. >>> I was googling things like "slow zpool ZFS" and other similar >>> terms but just couldn't find anything concrete (because my >>> problem isn't concrete). >>> >>> I tried searching if my drives are 4k with no luck. I saw an >>> article back from 2010 stating hard drives were planning to all >>> be 4k in 2011... this leads me to believe that they are 4k >>> since I purchased them new last year. Crap D: Is there a for >>> sure way I can see if they are 4k? Could this be my performance >>> issue or is it just because my directories have large amounts >>> of folders/files in them? >>> >>> Again, sorry if I came out rude. This is all new technology to >>> me and I'm doing my best to become familiar with it. - -- | Bjoern Kahl +++ Siegburg +++ Germany | | "googlelogin@-my-domain-" +++ www.bjoern-kahl.de | | Languages: German, English, Ancient Latin (a bit :-)) | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQCVAgUBU3vHa1sDv2ib9OLFAQLLCQP/UaP/ipKUIUmpslXPKrqEnBMMgkRT1PZa IPtO0mugSSv80XeC9VHGMFgd+gUmNcissnyMpvOJTeMqvOQiarmb0/+OHawALnKi Y2758Q4ZFT9MTBXlJajF6JSRjURQnf8a+Gytru2u/Q3bCu9CJaQJHMShgIhNr1dP ZNSc7K3a7Kc= =WF5b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "zfs-macos" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to zfs-macos+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.