Hi guys! What a journey. So with school and work I finally was able to get 
everything pulled off my ZFS pool and ready to rebuild it.

Except I can't find the developer version...

I'm at downloads.maczfs.org and checked current and all downloads and the last 
release seems to be MacZFS-74.3.3.pkg, which I have installed:
collect-maczfs-state.sh v maczfs_74-3-3-68-ga26cd63

Determining system version
# uname -a
Darwin Jamess-iMac.local 13.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 13.2.0: Thu Apr 17 
23:03:13 PDT 2014; root:xnu-2422.100.13~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64

Looking for ZFS packages
# -v pkgs -sl Found %d packages pkgutil --pkgs | grep -e zfs -e ZFS -e ZEVO -e 
Found 4 packages

So where is the developer version? Everything else is marked as depreciated. 
Please help D: I want to use the latest build experimental or not.

I'm going to use this line once I get the new version installed:
zpool create -f -O compression=lz4 -O casesensitivity=insensitive -O 
normalization=formD -O atime=off -o ashift=12 deathstar raidz disk1 disk2 disk3 

Do I need to delete the pool first or format the drives in any way special 
before doing this?



On May 20, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Bjoern Kahl <googlelo...@bjoern-kahl.de> wrote:

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> Hi James,
> Am 20.05.14 21:32, schrieb James Hoyt:
>> So it sounds like I need to recreate my zpool ...
>> "Logical Block Size" = 512 "Physical Block Size" = 4096
>> So I should use the following command on my next zpool to help
>> finder performance and make it compatible for 4k drives?
>> zfs create -o normalization=formD atime=off murr ashift=12 (let me
>> know if I have any errors in this)
> Almost.
> As said in my other mail an hour ago, "normalization" doesn't exist in
> the stable MacZFS version.  Also each option needs its own "-o" and
> ashift is a pool option, not a file system option.
> You do "zpool create -o ashift=12 -O atime=off murr _devices_ ..."
> Note the capital "-O" and the small letter "-o".
> And for subsequent file systems (datasets in ZFS language) you use
>  "zfs create -o atime=off _pool_name/fs_name_"
> If you used the development version, then you would add a
> "-O normalization=formD" in the zpool command and a
> "-o normalization=formD" in the zfs command.
> Best regards
>    Björn
>> As for the slowness in a VM, Mac file sharing would affect it
>> because Windows 8 accesses the drives with Fusion by mounting 
>> \\jamess-imac\Volumes\murr as the Z drive so it technically is a
>> file share if that's what you mean. But it could also be because
>> the slowness of not using a 4k compatible zpool is compounded with
>> a virtual machine. (Could someone updated the getting started guide
>> to have you create a 4k zpool by default?)
>> Thanks for the advice on Songbird! I may try it if it can organize
>> via masks and support custom ID3 fields. I saw it's discontinued
>> though but it's still on SourceForge.
>> I'm at work so can't give a better reply but I have a lot more to
>> look into and read now =)
>> - James
>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:07 PM, 'Busty' via zfs-macos 
>> <zfs-macos@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> James,
>>> I use my 15TB pool mainly for flac files too, so I thought I'd
>>> throw in my two cents (even if some is not zfs related):
>>> regarding iTunes recognizing flac: There is a quicktime component
>>> that will enable flac in quicktime, iirc it also works in itunes,
>>> at least you can get it too. But it will not play gapless, there
>>> is an amount of silence between songs.
>>> Another thing is called "TwistedFlac", which in a folder you can
>>> specify shows all flac files as wave files. These can be imported
>>> into iTunes, the downside is that the tags are not recognized.
>>> Just in case that helps with your library. I use songbird, which
>>> can about anything you want, but is not as stable as iTunes.
>>> Regarding your files showing up very slow, I experience that when
>>> I access my files on the pool from a remote machine which has to
>>> do with AFP (Apple filesharing protocol), so I have set up a NFS
>>> share. But you don'T writ eabout accessing the files from a a
>>> remote machine, so this should not be your issue.
>>> I kinda went the way you did. I had no knowledge of zfs but
>>> really wanted the features for data safety. That was roughly 3-4
>>> years ago. As I set up my pool (and my backup, by the way), I
>>> came across all kinds of problems (drives vanishing, kernel
>>> panics, slow file browsing, scripts to automate backups and
>>> scrubs, you name it) which had to be solved, so I had a lot of
>>> reading and googling to do. I kinda was fooled by the MacZFS
>>> tutorial into thinking that this will be completely easy like
>>> you describe.
>>> These guys, in the front row Jason and Alex Blewitt and Bjoern
>>> helped me a lot to get on the way (so thanks again guys)
>>> Sebastian
>>> On 20.05.14 20:28, James Hoyt wrote:
>>>> Hi Bjorn thanks for your reply and thanks for your help Jason
>>>> in all this. I've actually been in the IT industry for 12
>>>> years, A+ certified, and currently pursuing my CCNA and MCSA so
>>>> a technical setup didn't intimidate me. (granted servers are a
>>>> new beast to me) I came across Mac ZFS while researching RAID
>>>> options. As I'm getting new music in wav/flac daily from a
>>>> number of sources, a manual backup system really wouldn't work
>>>> for me as it's too hard to keep up. I tried once with a blu-ray
>>>> writer and it was a nightmare.. plus I'm regularly categorizing
>>>> music with MediaMonkey (why I have a virtual machine because
>>>> it's Windows only... oh why won't iTunes support FLAC 
>>>> natively!) so all the tracks are updated now and then. So I
>>>> thought an offsite backup that's updated every few months along
>>>> with a four-drive RAID setup with one drive for redundancy
>>>> would be all that I would need.
>>>> MacZFS.org is well put together and the tutorials isn't
>>>> intimidating at all. Run a few terminal commands? I can do
>>>> that. The depth of ZFS wasn't really covered nor did it really
>>>> state that more research is needed (like if I need 4k setup..
>>>> or whatever that is D:  ) So it's rather frustrating to just
>>>> find out I moved all my data off my individual 2/1.5 TB drives
>>>> to find out I did it wrong when I was careful, very careful, to
>>>> follow the Getting Started guide and FAQ precisely.
>>>> Bleh D:
>>>> Jason, I apologize for coming out rough. I felt like I was
>>>> being treated like a lazy moron, which I'm not. I've researched
>>>> a variety of RAID solutions quite a bit and thought I was all
>>>> setup for ZFS and just had to change some configurations to
>>>> speed it up. I'm sure you weren't born with this knowledge and
>>>> needed the help of others to guide you in the right direction.
>>>> I was googling things like "slow zpool ZFS" and other similar
>>>> terms but just couldn't find anything concrete (because my
>>>> problem isn't concrete).
>>>> I tried searching if my drives are 4k with no luck. I saw an
>>>> article back from 2010 stating hard drives were planning to all
>>>> be 4k in 2011... this leads me to believe that they are 4k
>>>> since I purchased them new last year. Crap D: Is there a for
>>>> sure way I can see if they are 4k? Could this be my performance
>>>> issue or is it just because my directories have large amounts
>>>> of folders/files in them?
>>>> Again, sorry if I came out rude. This is all new technology to
>>>> me and I'm doing my best to become familiar with it.
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