On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 02:30, Jaap Karssenberg <jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Adam Porter <a...@alphapapa.net> wrote: >> For a long time I've been thinking of some kind of Evernote/Zim >> hybrid, one that could display and tag notes separately, but display >> more than one "note" in the right-pane, rather than a single large >> page. I just discovered this: >> >> http://bassultra.deviantart.com/art/Footnote-Note-Taking-Application-273031292 >> >> I'm sure it's nowhere near Zim now, but the UI is very close to what >> I've been imagining. It would be great if Zim could display a subtree >> of notes in the right pane, instead of just a single note. Then it >> could have a dedicated tag strip, dedicated date field, dedicated >> title field, stars or flags, etc. Or, if a single note was displayed, >> it could look like it does now. >> >> This would make tagging so much more useful. It would also let notes >> be organized in a more detailed way, like Evernote. >> >> I'd start coding this myself, but I know very little about Python and >> Gtk. So this message is just my throwing the idea out there to see >> how it's received by the Zim crowd. I know there are plenty of >> wishlist bugs already. I'm interested to hear your thoughts! > > I really like that screenshot - it looks like a very nice and clean > user interface! > > But making zim do something similar is easier said than done. As you > pointed out in the other mail, zim is tuned towards "page size" notes, > not small snippets. To get in this direction there are basically two > options: > > 1/ add snippets as paragraphs in a single page > 2/ add snippets as separate pages under a namespace > > If I understand correctly you propose to go for option 2/ and have a > special view where all notes in a particular subtree are scrolled in > one view. My main concern is how to make this scalable. It will work > fine for a few hundred small notes, but it will have hard limits as it > starts taking more memory etc. once you start loading thousands of > notes. So it would need some nice cruft to load pages on demand, while > presenting it as a continuous widget.
You understand me perfectly. :) Personally, I don't think I'd want to have thousands in a single subtree, although I can imagine a collection growing over time to reach such a number, so I suppose Zim should be ready for that. What if it only loaded a certain number of notes into the view at a time, ordered by date, and then added more to the view when the user scrolled near the end of the list? Or could that be done in a background thread after loading the initial set? > Correctly zim supports option 1/ much better. For example tags are > supported inline instead of as a bar along the bottom of the page, so > you can add tags per paragraph and use "find" to locate them. In > addition you could take the new Table of Contents plugin  to get an > overview of all snippets in the page. Admitted, this has the same > limitation in scalability if you dump everything in a single page, but > it doesn't require new code and you can subdivide over as many pages > as needed. I haven't tried the new plugin yet, but it sounds nice. :) > > Regards, > > Jaap > >  https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/373280 _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : email@example.com Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp