Thank you, Jim, for putting this out here.  I love to read the Discourses
of Brigham Young   This book has been a great comfort to me and I have
learned so much from it.  Each time I read it again, I learn something
new (hmmm, go figure).  This particular passage is full of hope--it is
beautiful and really leaves one with a sense of "duh"--you know, like "of
course there is more out there" and it all seems to make more sense.  It
makes me feel like a real part of that big eternal plan.  

Somehow, when I read the words of BY, everything is clearer and I don't
worry about the future or seeing my dear husband again.  It is when I get
away from it (meaning scriptures/teachings in general) that I sink into
the depths of depression.  I needed this pick-me-up today--first holidays
and all.  Thanks again, Jim.

your sis in Mishawaka

On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:55:38 +0000 Jim Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Now a few words to the brethren and sisters upon the doctrine and 
> ordinances of the house of God. All who have lived on the earth 
> according to the best light they had, and would have received the 
> fulness of the Gospel had it been preached to them, are worthy of a 
> glorious resurrection, and will attain to this by being administered 
> for, in the flesh, by those who have the authority. All others will 
> have 
> a resurrection, and receive a glory, except those who have sinned 
> against the Holy Ghost. It is supposed by this people that we have 
> all 
> the ordinances in our possession for life and salvation, and 
> exaltation, 
> and that we are administering in these ordinances. This is not the 
> case. 
> We are in possession of all the ordinances that can be administered 
> in 
> the flesh; but there are other ordinances and administrations that 
> must 
> be administered beyond this world. I know you would ask what they 
> are. I 
> will mention one. We have not, neither can we receive here, the 
> ordinance and the keys of the resurrection. They will be given to 
> those 
> who have passed off this stage of action and have received their 
> bodies 
> again, as many have already done and many more will. They will be 
> ordained, by those who hold the keys of the resurrection, to go 
> forth 
> and resurrect the Saints, just as we receive the ordinance of 
> baptism, 
> then the keys of authority to baptize others for the remission of 
> their 
> sins. This is one of the ordinances we cannot receive here, and 
> there 
> are many more. We hold the authority to dispose of, alter and change 
> the 
> elements; but we have not received authority to organize native 
> element, 
> to even make a spear of grass grow.
> We have no such ordinance here. We organize according to men in the 
> flesh. By combining the elements and planting the seed, we cause 
> vegetables, trees, grains, etc., to come forth. We are organizing a 
> Kingdom here according to the pattern that the Lord has given for 
> people 
> in the flesh, but not for those who have received the resurrection, 
> although it is a similitude. Another item: We have not the power in 
> the 
> flesh to create and bring forth or produce a spirit; but we have the 
> power to produce a temporal body; the germ of this, God has placed 
> within us. And when our spirits receive our bodies, and through our 
> faithfulness we are worthy to be crowned, we will then receive 
> authority 
> to produce both spirit and body. But these keys we cannot receive in 
> the 
> flesh. Herein, brethren, you can perceive that we have not finished, 
> and 
> cannot finish our work, while we live here, no more than Jesus did 
> while 
> he was in the flesh.
> We cannot receive, while in the flesh, the keys to form and fashion 
> kingdoms and to organize matter, for they are beyond our capacity 
> and 
> calling, beyond this world. In the resurrection, men who have been 
> faithful and diligent in all things in the flesh, have kept their 
> first 
> and second estate, and are worthy to be crowned Gods, even the Sons 
> of 
> God, will be ordained to organize matter. How much matter do you 
> suppose 
> there is between here and some of the fixed stars which we can see? 
> Enough to frame many, very many millions of such earths as this, yet 
> it 
> is now so diffused, clear and pure, that we look through it and 
> behold 
> the stars. Yet the matter is there. Can you form any conception of 
> this? 
> Can you form any idea of the minuteness of matter? 15:136.
> (Brigham Young, Discourses of Brigham Young, selected and arranged 
> by 
> John A. Widtsoe [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1954], 398.)
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