Quite frankly I think that you finding it interesting is interesting to me.
What do I mean?   If this event has meaning to you then it is good.  I
believe that the best definition of a miracle is something that produces
faith.  So it is with "signs."  they are important to the one that receives
a witness and increased faith from what understanding they receive.

That is why I dare not dismiss your question even though I think it not
likely to have an impact on very many people.  And of course I would not
preach it in Sunday school.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] Mars

> At 07:14 PM 7/30/2003, you wrote:
> >Steven Montgomery:
> >
> >Mars brightness by the end of August would certainly seem
> >to me to qualify as a "wonder in heaven." What would give
> >this idea more significance and credibility is if August 27th
> >happened to be a significant date in Jewish or Mormon
> >history.
> >
> >_______________
> >
> >I don't know about Jewish history, but I happen to have a
> >little ditty called _On This Day in the Church_, put together
> >by a quartet of Y professors, which provides the following.
> <snipped a list of seemingly unimportant or minor events in Church
> Apparently your quartet of professors missed Section 63 of the Doctrine &
> Covenants. In this revelation, given August 27th 1831, the Lord, through
> the Prophet Joseph Smith warns that a "day of wrath" shall come upon the
> wicked and then mentions, starting with verse 7 and ending with verse 12,
> something interesting:
> And he that seeketh signs shall see signs, but not unto salvation.
> Verily, I say unto you, there are those among you who seek signs, and
> have been such even from the beginning;
> But, behold, faith cometh not by signs, but signs follow those that
> Yea, signs come by faith, not by the will of men, nor as they please, but
> by the will of God.
> Yea, signs come by faith, unto mighty works, for without faith no man
> pleaseth God; and with whom God is angry he is not well pleased;
> unto such he showeth no signs, only in wrath unto their condemnation.
> Wherefore, I, the Lord, am not pleased with those among you who have
> after signs and wonders for faith, and not for the good of men unto my
> Maybe its just coincidence or happenstance that Mars will shine brightest
> on the very date that Section 63 of the Doctrine & Covenants was given to
> the world. But then again, maybe not.
> Its certainly out of my jurisdiction to proclaim that there is a
> connection--I just find it interesting. Very Interesting.
> --
> Steven Montgomery
> It is no accident, then, that so many who gathered at Philadelphia to
> declare independence and a decade later to draft a constitution were men
> who had apprenticed themselves to Thucydides, Plato, Aristotle, Polybius,
> and Cicero, and who could debate at length on the various constitutional
> forms of the classical world before they chose one for the new American
> nation.  We owe our very existence as a people in great part to classical
> learning.----T. L. Simmons
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