Even though our country has laws against certain forms of persecution
(would it fall under "hate crimes"?), I believe that when it comes to the
Saints, those laws will be ignored.  I believe that any breaking of those
laws will be overlooked, much as KKK activities were overlooked for so
long.  Laws or no laws, we are going to be persecuted.  I believe that it
has already begun, though not yet widespread.  

Faith, like Pres. Hinckley said, is the key.  With faith, I can feel pity
for those who have persecuted the Saints and will yet persecute because
eventually they are going to have to pay a terrible price and they don't
even know it.  What a terrible surprise that will be.  If I have faith, if
I truly live the gospel, what of any eternal significance can happen to me?

Just my two cents' worth...
Heidi the fair

> [Original Message]
> From: Valerie Nielsen Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 8/8/2003 4:32:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [ZION] The  Exodus from Nauvoo
> The feelings then are still present today.  I have been to Nauvoo twice
> in the past year, and both times met up with people who absolutely hate
> us.  I'm not sure they even know why they do, except it has been taught
> to them to hate.  As I stood looking across the mighty Mississippi, I
> tried to imagine the Saints crossing with wagons and horses.  It was
> incomprehensible to me.  I get nervous driving over that river on a
> bridge.  Then, on the Iowa side, I looked over and saw what the Saints
> must have seen--the beautiful Nauvoo temple, shining and beautiful.  I
> cannot begin to imagine what it must have been like to work so hard to
> build that edifice, only to have to leave it behind.  In fact, it was
> finished and dedicated after many Saints had already left Nauvoo.  I
> can't be so sure that I would not have stayed behind with Emma--she had
> already suffered so much loss.
> It is unfortunate that such hatred exists--but it did then and it still
> does.  If anyone read the article link I sent the other day, then you
> know that such hatred still exists.  A few months ago we discussed here,
> briefly, Pres. Hinckley's allusion to our season of relative comfort
> coming to an end.  At the April 2001 General Conference, he mentioned the
> relative peace we lived in, and the fact there were no big wars.  Of
> course we know what happened less than a month before the Oct 2001
> conference.  At that conference GBHinckley talked very strongly about the
> evil that still exists in the world today.  He emphasized over and over
> the value of our testimonies and faith.  Especially our faith.
> I still remember hearing him speak and thinking to myself that we are
> going to, again, be a persecuted people.  I doubt it will be in the same
> manner it was then--our country has laws now against such things, but I
> believe it will happen nonetheless.  I still have people who have known
> me for years give me the strangest look and turn their backs when they
> find out I am a Mormon.  I much prefer those who find out and joke with
> me about which wife I am.  At least I have something on which to build. 
> But those who say nothing and just walk away. . .
> my 2cents
> val
> On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:48:36 -0800 "John W. Redelfs"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I've been reading THE STORY OF THE LATTER-DAY SAINTS by James B. 
> > Allen and 
> > Glen M. Leonard, and I just read the part where the saints were 
> > forced to 
> > leave Nauvoo in February, 1846, months before their planned 
> > departure in 
> > April.  I was especially moved by the story of the saints who were 
> > too poor 
> > to make the trek, but who were forced across the river 
> > nevertheless.   Reading this history, I just can't help feeling a 
> > deep 
> > resentment towards the American people who either persecuted the 
> > saints or 
> > looked the other way while they were persecuted.
> > 
> > Over a thousand saints died on the trail that first winter, the 
> > winter of 
> > 1846-47.  Disgusting.
> > 
> > 
> > John W. Redelfs                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ===========================================
> > "There is no place in this work for those who believe only
> > in the gospel of doom and gloom.  The gospel is good
> > news.  It is a message of triumph." --Gordon B. Hinckley
> > ===========================================
> > All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR 
> > 
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