Paul, before you go through a tirade like that you really ought to
understand the subject.  I think that if you really take a look at the
subject you would find a completely different approach than the one you

The relationship between a married couple has been used for centuries, and
for good reason, to suggest the proper relationship between Christ and his
followers.  I do not think that this would be the case if the marriage, and
the womans part in it, were so despicable as you suggest.

I am currently reading a book called "Beloved Bridegoom" by Donna B.
Nielsen.  It discusses this topic.  It has a sub-title of "Finding Christ in
Ancient Jewish Marriage and Family Customs."  You might find this very


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Osborne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Confusion in Gospel Doctrine Class

> On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 13:32:31 -0400 Chet Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> > Since Joseph noted that Paul had been mistranslated -- what Paul
> > (not
> > Paul Osborne) actually advised was that it wasn't correct for women
> > to
> > RULE in church.  If you read the rest of Paul's letter, it's pretty
> > obvious that men shouldn't RULE in church either.
> Ha! I don't by that. The Jews and the early Christians were a strange
> people altogether. There customs and habits were nothing like we are use
> to. Woman were second class citizens too. The Egyptians and the Greeks
> treated their woman better than the Jews ever did! When it comes to
> marriage and woman's rights the Jews were pathetic.
> Paul O
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