As a member of a union (NEA, ISTA, BEA), and the widow of a "spoiled?" blue collar UAW 
worker, I'd like to see your husband get his hands dirty doing the blue-collar work my 
husband did his whole life!

It literally broke his back!  He couldn't even go to his youngest daughter's high 
school graduation because he couldn't walk!  There is no amount of money in the world 
to make up for that!

Your husband may work more hours, but he sure doesn't have the working conditions the 
blue collar workers do.  How unfair of you to call them spoiled.  How unfair to 
complain because they want decent health care coverage for their families.  It is your 
attitude that keeps unions alive!  

val

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Well, Paul, my husband is in what you would refer to as a "white-collar"
job and supervises what you would call "blue-collar" workers.  However,
many of those "blue-collar" workers make much more money than my husband
does because of the union.  They are unionized and are thus paid overtime,
etc...my husband is salaried but does not get paid overtime, yet he is
required to put in over 60 hours per week (and he is not the only manager
in this position).  Last weekend, in 3 days, he put in 42 hours.  He puts
in MANY MANY MANY more hours than any of his spoiled unionized blue collar
workers even DREAM of putting in themselves!  And yet, they're talking of
striking next year because - BOOHOO - the company cannot continue to pay
100% of their health insurance premiums.  The company is not asking the
unionized workers to pay any more than what management has been paying for
years, yet the spoiled unionized workers are planning to strike over this
next year when the contract is up.  Quite frankly, my husband is being
oppressed in his job by a female regional manager who favors other females
in promotions.  The last person to get promoted was a female with less than
2 years of service in, yet my husband who is eminently more qualified and
smarter and who has nearly 5 years in, was not promoted.  Yes, my husband
is white collar, but I have to work, too.

Heidi


> [Original Message]
> From: Paul Osborne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 9/14/2003 7:56:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [ZION] working woman
>
> Gordon B. Hinckley, "Women of the Church," Ensign, Nov. 1996, 67
> "Some years ago President Benson delivered a message to the women of the
> Church. He encouraged them to leave their employment and give their
> individual time to their children. I sustain the position which he took.
> NEVERTHLESS, I recognize, as he recognized, that there are some women (it
> has become very MANY in fact) who HAVE TO WORK TO PROVIDE FOR THE NEEDS
> OF THEIR FAMILIES. To you I say, do the very best you can. I hope that if
> you are employed full-time you are doing it to ensure that basic needs
> are met and not simply to indulge a taste for an elaborate home, fancy
> cars, and other luxuries. The greatest job that any mother will ever do
> will be in nurturing, teaching, lifting, encouraging, and rearing her
> children in righteousness and truth. None other can adequately take her
> place."
> ----------
> There are "many" woman who have to work because their husbands are blue
> collar workers who have been oppressed by the financial changes of our
> society. The prophet is confessing to the Church there are changes taking
> place. President Bensen is dead and can no longer counsel the Church
> regarding the movement of the LDS people in a changing world which
> continues to get worse and oppress the poor working men of this world.
> President Hinckley confesses that the number of woman is "MANY" that
> "HAVE" to work.
> I feel that those people (especially white collar men) that tell the blue
> collar men that wives shouldn’t work are way out of line and are NOT
> following the counsel and example of the prophet! It is the white collar
> men that have oppressed the blue collar men since this world began and
> the day will come when that will no longer be the case.
> Finally, if you self righteous white collar brethren don't like what I'm
> saying-- then shove it where the sun don't shine! :-(((  so blahhh to
> you!
>
> Paul O
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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