The streetpreachers belong to an organization whose entire object is to
harrass those who disagree with them.  Check out Streetpreachers.com or
something close to that.  They openly declare that the truth is not
important, after all we are going to Hell anyway so truth is irrelevant.

George

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Breaking the charter?


> Whether this happened or did not happen, it certainly could have and has
in
> other places.  One example is that some missionaries, short on time, took
> their laundry to a local cleaners (bad decision #1).  The owner kept a
pair
> of garments and displayed them in the window (bad decision #2) and would
not
> give them back to the missionaries (bad decision #3).  The Mission
President
> went over and had a private conversation with the owner and got the
garments
> back (good decision #1, which trumped all the bad decisions).  The MP set
a
> new rule (guess what?, and good decision #2).
>
> The "ministers" out in front of GC are not Christians.  They are clearly
> servants of Satan.  Their actions should have been decried by anyone of
good
> faith.
>
> In the US, their actions are protected speech.  While the actions of the
two
> members in response to this provocation are understandable from an
emotional
> point of view, the members who took the garments away probably exercised
> poor judgment.  We are not a people of martyrs.  We have endured many
things
> and hope to endure all things.  In my opinion, there are many better ways
to
> spend one's time serving the Lord than dealing with a theft charge.
>
> On the other hand, I hope that I would have been able to ignore these
idiot
> servants of Satan!
>
> Jon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Grampa Bill in Savannah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:27 AM
> Subject: [ZION] Breaking the charter?
>
>
> > Dear ones,
> >     I received the following by email. It probably violates the charter
> > for me to forward it... but does anyone know the truth of this? I am
> > incensed!
> > ===========================
> >   HOW ABOUT TOLERANCE FOR ALL?
> >
> >   Some Muslims wear sacred clothing. So do some Jews. The same for
> >   Native Americans and some Hindus and others. Bits of cloth or string
> >   that are physical reminders of God and his bond
> >   with man. Sacred things, really, prayer shawls or beads, head
> >   coverings or aprons, medicine bags. Things that are special to people,
> >   honorable and good things.
> >
> >   Things that should be respected.
> >
> >   One would not, for example, rip the yarmulke from a Jewish man's head
> >   and mockingly fling it like a Frisbee. Nor would you wear a yarmulke
as
> >   a spoof or joke. Certainly not as an attack on Judaism. Not as a
> >   mockery of Jews and their faith.
> >
> >   Yet something like that happened this weekend. In front of thousands
> >   of people in one of America's great cities. An act of religious
> >   desecration, bigotry and discrimination. And the perpetrators boast of
> >   it to the press. It was in Salt Lake City. And it was against Mormons.
> >   And somehow that makes it acceptable.
> >
> >   Here's what happened. Over the weekend, Mormons gathered for what they
> >   call "general conference." It is a twice-a-year meeting that draws
tens
> >   of thousands to Salt Lake City and is broadcast around the world to an
> >   audience in the low millions. It is a worship service. It is sacred
and
> >   special to them. And each year it is protested.
> >
> >   So-called Christian evangelists stand on the sidewalk outside the
> >   Mormon meetings and shout rude condemnations of the religion to the
> >   thousands who pass in and out. It is an odd spectacle, unmatched in
> >   American society. To think that crude protesters would stand outside a
> >   mosque or synagogue, or a cathedral or church, and harass worshipers
and
> >   denounce a religion is just beyond the pale.
> >
> >   It is an act of indefensible religious bigotry. And yet it happens,
> >   and is often applauded and boasted of.
> >
> >   This column started with a mention of sacred clothing. Well, Mormons
> >   have sacred clothing, too. Like a variety of religious garments, it is
> >   worn against the skin. It is a type of underclothing. They don't talk
> >   about it. They don't show it to people. They keep it sacred. Like
> >   virtually all-religious clothing, it is a specific reminder of
promises
> >   made to God. Like virtually all religious clothing, it is precious and
> >   significant to the people who wear it.
> >
> >   Well, Sunday the evangelists had some. Maybe six guys, Baptist
> >   ministers, mocking the Mormons as they came out of a meeting. Shouting
> >   rude things to people coming out of church. And they had these sacred
> >   garments. And one supposed minister of the gospel was wiping his
> >   backside with them, laughingly treating them like toilet paper as
> >   thousands who held them sacred walked by.
> >
> >   Can you see that being done to a prayer shawl in front of a Synagogue,
> >   or a prayer rug in front of a mosque? Wouldn't all decent people
> >   publicly denounce that sacrilege?
> >
> >   He also draped them around his neck, and pretended over and over to
> >   sneeze into them. And loudly blow his nose into them. While families
and
> >   children walked past.
> >
> >   Stop for a moment.
> >
> >   Lay aside what you do or don't think about Mormons. But was that
right?
> >
> >   More to the point, was that Christian? Is that what Jesus would do? Is
> >   that what any decent person of any faith would do? Absolutely not. It
> >   is wrong, bigoted and un-American. No matter who it's against.
> >
> >   It was an affront. It smelled like the bigotry of the Klan and the
> >   Third Reich. And yet the ministers boasted of it to reporters and
posed
> >   for pictures and no one in the Utah or American religious, media or
> >   civil rights communities has condemned it.
> >
> >   And, oddly, two worshipers were taken away in handcuffs. One man,
> >   dressed in his church clothes, walked past in the crowd, saw the
insults
> >   and desecrations, and grabbed the piece of clothing. To protect it. He
> >   was charged with robbery and taken to jail. Half an hour later another
> >   worshiper similarly grabbed a molested garment and attempted to take
it
> >   away. He was unsuccessful and waiting police stepped in to take him
into
> >   custody.
> >
> >   And that's the world we live in. You are harangued for your beliefs
and
> >   arrested for defending them. And the bigotry of our society is
> >   illustrated by how selectively we practice tolerance.
> >
> >  - by Bob Lonsberry C 2003
> >
> >
>
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