NO, I did not hear about that, however we must be on about the same page.
Ira and I and I'm not sure who else, but there were three of us that were
going to make a movie in the desert.  I took my dad's old IH pickup out in
the desert - to Kilborne's hole and it broke down in the hole.  We made it
back to town, and the rest of the story is about the same.  My dad had to
pay the tow trucks (two of them) anyway, and I was in a heap of trouble.  We
got a ride out of the desert in the back of a pickup - and the night had
settled in.  Boy was it cold.

Pax et Bonum,

John A.E., n/OEF

Life is a romantic business. It is painting a picture, not doing
a sum -- but  you have to make the romance, and it will come to the
question how much fire you have in your belly. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 1:46 PM
> Subject: [ZION] Old Jeeps
> Steven Montgomery wrote:
> >I agree. I still have several Handyman jacks. But, in the particular
> >"bind" I was in, since I was at the pinnacle of a very narrow
> steep ridge,
> >I didn't have anyplace to put the jack, it wouldn't "hold" no
> matter where
> >I put it or tried to brace it, so--I broke down and paid $50.00
> to have a
> >tow truck nudge me just enough to get me off.
> John English told of a jeep that belonged to a friend of ours,
> Fred Evans,
> that we cruised the deserts with around El Paso when we were
> young.  But I
> have a story about Fred and his jeep that John may never have heard:
> On the 4th of July in 1973 I went out to Kilbourne Hole northwest of El
> Paso with my roommate Don Riding in his little Ford Pinto.  It was about
> 105 degrees in the shade.  Well, we got stuck in some soft sand in a dry
> creek bottom on the road, and we had to walk out, a really terrifying
> experience because so many die of dehydration in the same situation.
> We finally came to a deep well farm, and telephoned for a tow truck.  The
> tow truck got stuck trying to pull us out.  Then a second tow truck got
> stuck trying to pull out the first tow truck.  Finally, we called
> Fred who
> brought his old WWII jeep out.  Fred had better sense than to get
> down into
> the depression where the pinto and two tow trucks were stuck.  He
> stayed up
> on the ridge and let out his winch.  First he pulled out one tow truck,
> then the other, and finally the Pinto.  Both the tow truck operators were
> so embarrassed.  They had tried so hard to get out of the depression they
> had badly damaged their trucks on the rocks, tearing off their
> mufflers and
> doing body damage.  It was late that night when all of us got home.  Boy
> were we tired.  And thank heaven for Fred and his old jeep.
> Did you ever hear that one, John?
> John W. Redelfs                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "While we cannot agree with others on certain matters, we
> must never be disagreeable. We must be friendly,
> soft-spoken, neighborly, and understanding." (President
> Gordon B. Hinckley, October 2003)
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> All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR
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