Gary:

Who said it was funny? Why do you think contributions to the
Catholic Church dropped after the scandal broke? Because
Catholics did not want to contribute to the anticipated huge
financial settlement, and they were furious that the leadership
of the church stonewalled  and lied and is continuing to do so.
Stay tuned, because the scandal has spilled into the Springfield,
Massachusetts diocese and first reports say the this one will be
as bad or worse that the one in the Boston Diocese.  To make
matters worse, the Bishop of the diocese -- the one who was
supposed to supervise the priests and deal with misconduct
charges -- is one of the accused pedophiles.  He stepped down
last week.

If the same thing went on in the Mormon Church -- if the apostles
of the church stonewalled the law and getting to the bottom of
the case -- I'd be the first one to start cracking jokes.

As for Mel Gibson: I realize he's devout.  I respect him for his
faith, especially in light of all the evil doing by his church.

Ron Scott

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gerald Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 3:47 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [ZION] The Passion
>
>
>Now there's a real cynical thing to say about a
>practicing Catholic!
>Tying him in with the sleaze bags, joking or not, is
>not funny at all.
>Gibson did the film as an expression of faith, whether
>we like it or
>not. The filthy priests did their evil deeds as an
>expression of evil.
>
>I'm certain Mel wants wicked priests in jail as much as
>the rest of us.
>He would want his religion and faith purified, so that
>it could serve
>the Christ well.
>
>Wouldn't we want to do the same if we found out that a
>bunch of Mormons
>were involved in some sleazy crime? I doubt we'd joke
>about the Osmonds
>bailing out child molesters in our Scouting program,
>eh?  It isn't funny
>at all. Rather, it is morbid to suggest anything like
>that, even in
>jest, and is a slam on an individual's personal convictions.
>
>Gary Smith
>
>
>Ron Scott wrote:
>>
>> John:
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your assessment.  I think it would make me
>> want to give up religion as well.
>>
>> But others disagree. I just heard opening weekend was
>the biggest
>> of all time: $150 Million-plus in gross receipts over
>two days.
>>
>> Perhaps he'll donate so much money to the Catholic
>Church it will
>> be able to keep all those priests from going  jail.
>>
>> RBS
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: John A. English, n/OEF
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:38 PM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: RE: [ZION] The Passion
>> >
>> >
>> >Ron,
>> >
>> >    I went expecting to be encouraged in my faith.
>> >What I saw was horribly
>> >graphic and really not much else.  There were some
>> >scenes that relieved the
>> >pain but overall not enough.  The film in being about
>> >the passion, death and
>> >resurrection of Christ was not very balanced.  There
>> >was not much time spent
>> >speaking to the resurrection and a lot of time spent
>> >beating up in Christ.
>> >
>> >    Also, it seems to me that the emphasis was very
>> >much on the evil Jewish
>> >leaders and at the same time showing Pilate(the real
>> >villain in my eyes) as
>> >a thoughtful Roman who cared about his subjects.  Then
>> >Pilate and Jesus
>> >began speaking Latin whereas most likely Jesus did not
>> >know Latin, and
>> >Pilate probably did not know Aramaic, which they had
>> >him speaking to the
>> >Jewish leaders.
>> >
>> >    I left the movie wanting to give up on all religion.
>> >
>> >    In a positive vein, it did get my attention, and
>> >I've spent days focusing
>> >on Christ and his suffering and his gift, almost
>> >without thinking about
>> >other things.  I think this is positive.
>> >
>> >Peace and all good,
>> >John A.E., n/OEF
>> >
>> > The most beautiful thing we can experience is the
>> >mysterious. It is the
>> >source of all art and science. He to whom this emotion
>> >is a stranger, who
>> >can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is
>> >as good as dead; his
>> >eyes are closed.      --Einstein (1879-1955)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: RB Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 8:54 PM
>> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: RE: [ZION] The Passion
>> >
>> >
>> >John:
>> >
>> >When you get a moment, I'd love to read your impressions as,
>> >based upon several reviews, this is not likely to be a
>> >movie I'll
>> >see.
>> >
>> >Ron
>> >
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: John A. English, n/OEF
>> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 7:15 PM
>> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>Subject: RE: [ZION] The Passion
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I saw it and it is to me worse than R rated.  I wish I
>> >>had not gone.
>> >>
>> >>Peace and all good,
>> >>John A.E., n/OEF
>> >>
>> >> The most beautiful thing we can experience is the
>> >>mysterious. It is the
>> >>source of all art and science. He to whom this emotion
>> >>is a stranger, who
>> >>can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is
>> >>as good as dead; his
>> >>eyes are closed.      --Einstein (1879-1955)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: Jonathan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 9:24 AM
>> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>Subject: [ZION] The Passion
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   FWIW:   My mom saw it...which surprised me.
>> >>She's usually
>> >>about as straight laced as they come and she said it
>> >>was amazing.  I
>> >>asked her if she felt bad about having seen it, an R
>> >>rated movie, and
>> >>she said no.
>> >>   Just a little more info for everyone to consider I guess.
>> >>--
>> >>Jonathan Scott
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