Uhh? Say what gaby?

this is the developers team for Launchpad itself. What do you mean? That
what vinces was proposing is in great part fulfulled by launchpad?

Dario Figueira

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:51 PM, gaby de wilde <gdewi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Your mission starts here vinces.
> https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-dev<https://launchpad.net/%7Elaunchpad-dev>
> enjoy,
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Dario Figueira <wurmda...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Hi vinces,
>> Just some parallel questions bc i'm confused.
>> - You email us all in Bcc? Bc it show like you just emailed me directly
>> and i can't reply to all (bad);
>> - In the sense of centralizing developers efforts, isn't that what
>> lauchpad is all about? Can't we at this point pretty much forget the
>> forum/wiki ?
>> And to all,
>> - All other mentioned projects source codes should be inputted into
>> launchpad as branches of the main programming team launchpad, correct?
>> Chop-chop ppl, only zynergy, zmsocial and Zirm are there yet.
>> Dario Figueira
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:45 AM, vinces1979 <vinces1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hey ZM Devs,
>>>   Like many other developers, I am sure we can all see, that there is
>>> some major splintering of data and a lot of unneeded duplication that is
>>> occurring within the movements development community. There are numerous
>>> different forums and applications, all with their own registrations,
>>> logins, and profiles. Again and again the same questions are being asked
>>> and time is needed to answer these questions and to assist users though
>>> the registration process, not to mention the time taken by developers to
>>> source and implement these sites, the resources, money and time spent
>>> building these "copy" sites. It feels to me like our community isn't
>>> really a community but a group of smaller groups all struggling on their
>>> own to accomplish the same goals.
>>>    I have heard so many good ideas and I think we need to make it
>>> easier for people to implement these ideas for the movement. New
>>> developers shouldn't have to think about setting up logins and
>>> registrations, handling profiles and user data. They should be able to
>>> start building their apps for the community to use, without reinventing
>>> the wheel over and over again.
>>>    So we are starting a new ambitious project and I am putting the code
>>> and the idea out there for feedback and/or assistance. This will be a
>>> fully opensource project from the ground up, built around the ideas and
>>> methodologies set forth by the opensource movement. All code contributed
>>> must be fully opensource and GPL compatible. We need a system that we
>>> can build and improve moving forward and not rely exclusively on any
>>> company or external organization for any piece of it.
>>>   We propose building a new web application framework for the movement,
>>> with the main purpose of letting our developers work together to build
>>> and maintain one large system with all the pieces working together as
>>> one.
>>>  The basic idea behind this app has been tried and tested. This concept
>>> allows developers to work within a general framework, run own code on
>>> their own servers and dispaly results within the main site. The
>>> developers are essentially only responsible for populating a div. The
>>> rest of the site is manged by the framework. User accounts and data are
>>> shared amoung the apps giving the illusion of one site, but distribute
>>> the majority of the site content across all of our resources.
>>>  This primary idea stands behind social networking sites "apps", and
>>> mobile phone "apps", so the idea is not a new one. But these platforms
>>> always restrict the developers for "security" reasons to lock the
>>> developers out of functionality and require them to jump through hoops
>>> to get their apps to work on the providers proprietary platform.
>>>   We hope to eliminate the need for much of this unneeded security by
>>> opening the source, and using best existing development methods of
>>> collaboration, together with new approaches being actively created
>>> within our team. We will of course need to protect some personal details
>>> (this will need to be decided upon), but allowing developers make what
>>> they want within our community platform without limits should be a goal.
>>>   As suggested above, the movement apps will be fully opensource and
>>> GPL compatible. Applications' developers must agree to full transparency
>>> in development and in source control. As well as agree to code audits by
>>> peers on the live code.
>>> The Initial idea was drafted in Wave:
>>> https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252B9K05p_RIA<https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com%21w%252B9K05p_RIA>
>>> Launchpad Project:
>>> https://launchpad.net/zynergy
>>> We look forward to hearing some great ideas and feedback from the team.
>>> Thanks for your time,
>>> Vince
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