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Flavio Paiva Junqueira commented on ZOOKEEPER-368:
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# I think it is quite important to have it working with FLE because FLE is the 
default leader election currently. My preference is to have it fixed before we 
get this patch in because it is not an unusual case. I'm happy to work with 
Henry on getting this fixed, btw;
# I didn't realize that the majority checks were the ones of the leader 
election implementations. This is pending at least for AFLE because AFLE does 
not use server identifiers, and there is a jira open to fix this issue 
(ZOOKEEPER-372). Fixing this hasn't been a priority because we haven't been 
able to decide whether we should support all implementations of leader election 
or not. We have been trying to keep FLE in good shape, though. To me, it is ok 
to postpone these changes if the checks are only on the LE and AFLE. 

> Observers
> ---------
>
>                 Key: ZOOKEEPER-368
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-368
>             Project: Zookeeper
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: quorum
>            Reporter: Flavio Paiva Junqueira
>            Assignee: Henry Robinson
>         Attachments: obs-refactor.patch, observer-refactor.patch, observers 
> sync benchmark.png, observers.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, 
> ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, 
> ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, 
> ZOOKEEPER-368.patch
>
>
> Currently, all servers of an ensemble participate actively in reaching 
> agreement on the order of ZooKeeper transactions. That is, all followers 
> receive proposals, acknowledge them, and receive commit messages from the 
> leader. A leader issues commit messages once it receives acknowledgments from 
> a quorum of followers. For cross-colo operation, it would be useful to have a 
> third role: observer. Using Paxos terminology, observers are similar to 
> learners. An observer does not participate actively in the agreement step of 
> the atomic broadcast protocol. Instead, it only commits proposals that have 
> been accepted by some quorum of followers.
> One simple solution to implement observers is to have the leader forwarding 
> commit messages not only to followers but also to observers, and have 
> observers applying transactions according to the order followers agreed upon. 
> In the current implementation of the protocol, however, commit messages do 
> not carry their corresponding transaction payload because all servers 
> different from the leader are followers and followers receive such a payload 
> first through a proposal message. Just forwarding commit messages as they 
> currently are to an observer consequently is not sufficient. We have a couple 
> of options:
> 1- Include the transaction payload along in commit messages to observers;
> 2- Send proposals to observers as well.
> Number 2 is simpler to implement because it doesn't require changing the 
> protocol implementation, but it increases traffic slightly. The performance 
> impact due to such an increase might be insignificant, though.
> For scalability purposes, we may consider having followers also forwarding 
> commit messages to observers. With this option, observers can connect to 
> followers, and receive messages from followers. This choice is important to 
> avoid increasing the load on the leader with the number of observers. 

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