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Mahadev konar commented on ZOOKEEPER-368: ----------------------------------------- henry, did you get a chance to test observers with old (meaning without hte patch) zookeeper servers? repeating my comments here: - looking at the patch it seems like it would work with servers prior to including this patch. Did you try some testing with current servers (killing one at a time and brining them up in a round robin fashion) just to make sure it works all fine with the current servers (not including the patch)? - what happens if a server configured as follower is suddenly brought down and is made an observer and the other way around as well? Just checking to see if we have these scenarios covered because such mistakes are easy to make when setting up servers > Observers: core functionality > ------------------------------ > > Key: ZOOKEEPER-368 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ZOOKEEPER-368 > Project: Zookeeper > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: quorum > Reporter: Flavio Paiva Junqueira > Assignee: Henry Robinson > Fix For: 3.3.0 > > Attachments: obs-refactor.patch, observer-refactor.patch, observers > sync benchmark.png, observers.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, > ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, > ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, > ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch, ZOOKEEPER-368.patch > > > Edit (Henry Robinson/henryr) 12/11/09: > This JIRA specifically concerns the implementation of non-voting peers called > Observers, their documentation and their tests. > Explicit goals are 1. not breaking any current ZK functionality, 2. enabling > at least one deployment scenario involving Observers, 3. documentation > describing how to use the feature and 4. tests validating the correct > behaviour of 2. > Non goals of this JIRA are 1. performance optimizations specific to > Observers, 2. compatibility with every feature of ZooKeeper (in particular > all leader election protocols), which are both to be addressed in future > JIRAs. > See http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/ZooKeeper/Observers for more detail of use > cases, proposed design and usage. > See http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/ZooKeeper/Observers/ReviewGuide for a brief > commentary on the current patch. > ------------- > Currently, all servers of an ensemble participate actively in reaching > agreement on the order of ZooKeeper transactions. That is, all followers > receive proposals, acknowledge them, and receive commit messages from the > leader. A leader issues commit messages once it receives acknowledgments from > a quorum of followers. For cross-colo operation, it would be useful to have a > third role: observer. Using Paxos terminology, observers are similar to > learners. An observer does not participate actively in the agreement step of > the atomic broadcast protocol. Instead, it only commits proposals that have > been accepted by some quorum of followers. > One simple solution to implement observers is to have the leader forwarding > commit messages not only to followers but also to observers, and have > observers applying transactions according to the order followers agreed upon. > In the current implementation of the protocol, however, commit messages do > not carry their corresponding transaction payload because all servers > different from the leader are followers and followers receive such a payload > first through a proposal message. Just forwarding commit messages as they > currently are to an observer consequently is not sufficient. We have a couple > of options: > 1- Include the transaction payload along in commit messages to observers; > 2- Send proposals to observers as well. > Number 2 is simpler to implement because it doesn't require changing the > protocol implementation, but it increases traffic slightly. The performance > impact due to such an increase might be insignificant, though. > For scalability purposes, we may consider having followers also forwarding > commit messages to observers. With this option, observers can connect to > followers, and receive messages from followers. This choice is important to > avoid increasing the load on the leader with the number of observers. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.