Tres,
Is there anything needed on our end to get them "cleared for access"?  I can
assist moving that along if so.

Andrew

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tres Seaver
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 10:04 AM
> To: Florent Guillaume
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Zope-CMF] CMF 1.5.3 beta?
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> Florent Guillaume wrote:
> > Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Because the Plone guys are trying to release a 2.1RC at OSCOM, and
> >>because it would be sensible for them to use the fixes made since 1.5.2
> >>to the 1.5 branch, I'm wondering if we should be tagging a beta of
> 1.5.3.
> >>
> >>Any objections?  I may or may not get around to making a release for it.
> >
> > No objection. I'll slip in a few changes to reindexObjectSecurity today
> > too probably.
> >
> > However I'd like to urge the "Plone guys" (95% of which don't bother to
> > read or post in this list) to move their collective butts and actually
> > implement forward-compatibility in Plone itself rather that, once more,
> > tying the release of a base software to their own schedule.
> 
> I've been working on getting more of them focused on the maintenance of
> CMF:  Andy McKay, Geoff Davis, and Alec Mitchell each have fixes they
> want to land as soon as they get cleared for SVN access.
> 
> > We have been doing it in CPS for a while, in a "CPSCompat" product. It's
> > very easy, this is python, we can monkey-patch everything we need.
> 
> The problem with that approach is that it introduces the risk that
> bugfixes never make it back to the underlying product, because nobody
> has the incentive (beyond good intentions) to land them.  <span
> class="ironic">Of course, nobody would actually succumb to that
> temptation.</span>
> 
> > See for instance the state we had before CMF 1.5.2 was released:
> > http://svn.nuxeo.org/trac/pub/browser/CPSCompat/trunk/?rev=24873
> > These changes have become irrelevant now that CMF 1.5.2 is out, so the
> > current code doesn't have them anymore. And I haven't forced anyone to
> > release any other software just because I needed a new version of CPS
> > out there.
> 
> I learned this morning that the Plone 2.1 RC went out (I am told) with
> CMF 1.5.2.  The really crucial fix for them (making the pathwalk in
> DirectoryView less painfully slow) only really affects people running
> from SVN checkouts;  OTOH, SVN is the only way to get the RC.
> 
> 
> Tres.
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