Shane Hathaway writes:

> Jason Spisak wrote:
> > 
> > Shane Hathaway writes:
> > 
> > I had to restart Zope. I was about to start swapping, and now everyone's a
> > lunch.
> > 
> > It's so weird.  Even though there is really no one on it that memory is
> > just flying out the window.
> > 
> > > Jason Spisak wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Shane Hathaway writes:
> > > >
> > > > Okay, here's the output.  (BTW is was trying manage_debug without the
> > > > Control_Panel.  That was not intelligent;)
> > > >
> > > > Class           May 22, 2000 4:21 am    May 22, 2000 4:22 am    Delta
> > > > OIBTree.Bucket  7132                    8135                    +1003
> > > > IOBTree.BTree   2570                    2827                    +257
> > > > BTree.BTree     1028                    1105                    +77
> > > > IIBTree.Bucket  4590                    4619                    +29
> > >
> > > Since you say you are not using any DA's, the culprit must be
> > > ZCatalog.  What happens when you minimize the memory cache (setting the
> > > limit to 3 seconds)?  Do the OIBTree.Bucket objects get unloaded?
> > >
> > > Shane
> > 
> > How would I tell if they get unloaded?  I am new to the manage_debug BTW.
> > I set the Cache Parameters target time between accesses to 3.  What am I
> > looking for number-wise?
> 
> I studied your debug screens a little more and realized that the
> handling of BTree, etc. is probably in order.  The refcount is indeed
> decreasing--I think you just happened to hit a spike.
> 
> You must have a large site.  

300,000 + objects

>I'm guessing that you have a lot of
> objects that get cataloged.  

Yep. That's why I have the machine I do, though.

>In order for them to be cataloged, they
> have to be loaded into memory then unloaded.
> 

I see.

> Go to Control Panel -> Database Management -> Flush Cache and click
> "minimize".  Then go to Control Panel -> Database Management -> Cache
> Parameters.  After a minimize operation, the "Total number of objects
> in all of the caches combined" should be relatively low (< 1000), as
> well as your system memory usage.  Is that the case?

No.  After the 'minimize' I now have 15501 objects in cache combined.  And
the free command shows less memory than before the minimize command.
As Wyle E. Coyote would say...Yipe. :o

Jason Spisak
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