hey Albert,

   In my opinion getting something like this together can not be done in
less than 1 year.  I'm familiar with workflow systems and very familiar with
Zope.  The projects you mentioned at the end of your letter are hardly of
production value.  You are looking at a major development undertaking.  As
far as EDM- its pure marketechture.  A robust workflow management system
that integrates into Zope is currently not available.  You should determine
exactly what you need, what is available, and go from there.  There are many
systems that say they are "workflow" and do entirely different things( Verve
and Vitria are an example ). Again what you are doing is likely to be a
major development undertaking.  Good Luck!

 -josh zeidner

   I am looking for a workflow (WF) linked to a electronic document
   (EDM) system and a groupware email based (I have just happened to come
   accross aethera from the Kompany) that would be free software and
   in Zope + Python. The WF+DEM system I am looking for need to be usable
   only a browser (to be independant from the client ... that could be
   proprietary !), store its data into a postgresql database. It should be
   demonstrablable (at least showable into a proof of concept) within 2
   and be already installable and usable within 2 or 3 months. (I have
   taoday that the date when we'll decide on the system would be postponed 2
   weeks from wednesday 24/1 to wed 7/2)
   If I could find such a marvel, I may find the money to pay for it, at
   50000 $ to start with (this amount is a rapid guess; I may give more
   amounts we could spend in the following week)

   The idea is to use that combination of tools INSTEAD of buying a closed,
   proprietary solution (that may exist but be expensive and really har to
   parametrize), that NEED to be linked to a SAP ERP system.

   All suggestions and ideas are welcome, also on the selection criteria.

   (I happen to be responsible for the IT dept of the public institution
   wants to buy such a tool, but be new in the place and do not yet know a
   about WF and EDM !)

   Soon I may be able to give you more details about the requirements.

I don't think there is such as system polished and ready within 2
weeks. Here are some starting points:

use wftk as a basis, the open source workflow toolkit --

use openflow, a Zope based, but stalled project,

use Chautauqua, an old python based workflow system,

use the old UCI Endeavors workflow (java) system
 at http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/endeavors/endeavors.html

We have not bit the bullet and built anything yet.

Albert Boulanger

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