+1, and I say that knowing that it means I have to help.  I'm willing to 
write the docs for whoever works on the code.

A gentle reminder on some of the posts in this thread.  Please don't 
respond with "I'd really like <some good idea>."  Respond with "I'm 
willing to do the work for <some good idea>."  That's part of the point 
with Brian's note.

You don't _have_ to do the code work.  If you write up the docs for 
<some good idea>, you've likely done most of the work.

--Paul

Behrens Matt - Grand Rapids wrote:
> Brian Lloyd wrote:
> 
>  > Let's get a discussion
> 
>> started to define 2.6.
> 
> 
> This isn't exciting by any means unless you're one of the people who 
> package Zope up for distribution, or maybe you're one of the people who 
> manage lots of little Zopes on one system; but I'd like to revive the 
> "grand unified Zope installation and control" proposal that has been 
> floated by many people (including me) in one form or another for some 
> time.  Wikiwise, this would wrap up
> http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ZopeStartupProvisions and 
> http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/InstallationAndConfiguration, 
> at least.
> 
> To summarize, this would involve
> 
> - an expanded build program with an installation scheme that would allow 
> multiple versions of Zope to be present on the same system
> 
> - making that installation 'secure by default'
> 
> - a registry of Zope installations and one of instances and their 
> configuration settings
> 
> - a 'zopectl' program or similar that would be able to start and stop 
> instances
> 
> - a 'zopeinstance' program or similar that would become the 
> _recommended_ way of setting up Zope, by creating an INSTANCE_HOME
> 
> It would be nice if
> 
> - the same framework could apply to Zope 3, maybe taking care of that 
> piece ahead of time
> 
> I'm more than willing to head this up, though I question how long we 
> have before 2.6 to do so.
> 
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