This tcp dump from an xml-rpc request to the root manage method shows that you are correct:
[00:00.000 - client 127.0.0.1:3130 forwarded to :8080] [00:00.002 - server connected] POST /RPC2 HTTP/1.0 Host: localhost:9080 User-Agent: xmlrpclib.py/1.0.0 (by www.pythonware.com) Content-Type: text/xml Content-Length: 100 <?xml version='1.0'?> <methodCall> <methodName>manage</methodName> <params> </params> </methodCall> HTTP/1.0 200 OK Server: Zope/(unreleased version, python 2.1.3, freebsd4) ZServer/1.1b1 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 04:19:25 GMT WWW-Authenticate: basic realm="Zope" Content-Type: text/xml Etag: Connection: close Content-Length: 731 <?xml version='1.0'?> <methodResponse> <fault> <value><struct> <member> <name>faultCode</name> <value><int>-2</int></value> </member> <member> <name>faultString</name> <value><string>Unexpected Zope error value: <html><head><title>Zope</title></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <strong>You are not authorized to access this resource.</strong><p> No Authorization header found. <p><a href="http://www.zope.org/Credits" target="_top"><img src="http://localhost:9080/p_/ZopeButton" width="115" height="50" border="0" alt="Powered by Zope" /></a></p></body></html> </string></value> </member> </struct></value> </fault> </methodResponse> [00:00.220 - server closed] The server returns a 200 response status. Strangly, the response headers do include WWW-Authenticate. So, the xml-rpc code must be changing the response status. Here is a transcript of a normal http request to the same method: [00:00.000 - client 127.0.0.1:3133 forwarded to :8080] [00:00.002 - server connected] GET /manage HTTP/1.0 Host: localhost:9080 User-agent: Python-urllib/1.15 HTTP/1.0 401 Unauthorized Server: Zope/(unreleased version, python 2.1.3, freebsd4) ZServer/1.1b1 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 04:24:48 GMT WWW-Authenticate: basic realm="Zope" Bobo-Exception-File: /usr/home/casey/Sandbox/Zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/HTTPResponse.py Bobo-Exception-Type: Unauthorized Content-Type: text/html Connection: close Bobo-Exception-Value: bobo exception Etag: Content-Length: 350 Bobo-Exception-Line: 647 <html><head><title>Zope</title></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <strong>You are not authorized to access this resource.</strong><p> No Authorization header found. <p><a href="http://www.zope.org/Credits" target="_top"><img src="http://localhost:9080/p_/ZopeButton" width="115" height="50" border="0" alt="Powered by Zope" /></a></p></body></html> [00:00.124 - server closed] Now the 401 response status is returned. So, your assertion that Zope does not return a 401 on an unauthorized error over xml-rpc is correct. Whether this behavior is wrong, I am not sure. I would think that if the xml-rpc spec says nothing specific about this, then we should defer to the general http spec, in which case Zope would not be compliant. -Casey On Wednesday 14 August 2002 11:59 pm, Tim Hoffman wrote: > Hi Casey > > I am using Basic Auth with xmlrpc lib now, and yes it does work with > Python2.1 but that's not my point. > > The XML-RPC spec doesn't talk about authentication, and so yes what you > say is correct. However Adams position is that the spec says it is > implemented on top of http and the http spec says that an error > 401 needs to be sent if authentication is invalid etc.. So Adam makes > the claim that Zope is not compliant with the http protocol when XML-RPC > is used on top of it. > > And I am inclined to agree. > > Regards > > Tim > > On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 11:47, Casey Duncan wrote: > > Python's xmlrpclib doesn't support any authentication. It is easily subclassed > > to include it. I have successfully used it to connect with Zope and I do not > > have any reason to believe that Zope is broken with regard to authentication. > > > > However I do think that Python's xmlrpclib should include basic auth. Perhaps > > I will make an effort to put this in, since it is so easy. > > > > This how-to provides the code for extending xmlrpclib: > > > > http://www.zope.org/Members/Amos/XML-RPC > > > > It doesn't quite work for Python 2.1+, but I have attached a working version I > > use. > > > > hth, > > > > Casey > > > > On Wednesday 14 August 2002 10:51 pm, Tim Hoffman wrote: > > > I have had further from Adam Megacz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the author of XWT > > > on this issue. > > > > > > I believe I should raise a collector issue on this, however do > > > people believe this is a correct assessment of the situation. > > > > > > > > > ====================================================================== > > > Tim Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > The xmlrpc spec doesn't say anything about authentication. > > > > ... > > > > I suppose this whole area is pretty vague. > > > > > > Actually, it references the HTTP spec, which is quite clear about > > > requiring a 401. > > > > > > http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html#sec10.4.2 > > > > > > Without the 401, you don't know the authentication realm, > > > authentication type, or digest nonce -- three things you need to know > > > in order to authenticate (although the last one is only needed for > > > Digest auth, not Basic Auth). > > > > > > Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of XML-RPC libraries are broken in > > > this manner. I'm working with the Apache people right now on fixing > > > the Java libraries -- could you please work with the Python people to > > > get this fixed? > > > > > > I think this is a result of the fact that HTTP Auth isn't used very > > > often in XML-RPC, although it should be. I'm working on an RFC for > > > XML-RPC, and I will certainly include some wording which underscores > > > the importance of the 401 response. > > > > > > http://www.xwt.org/xmc/draft-megacz-xmc-05.txt > > > > > > - a > > > > > > -- > > > Sick of HTML user interfaces? > > > www.xwt.org > > > ========================================================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 10:47, Tim Hoffman wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I am working on a project that uses XWT (xwt.org) as a frontend to Zope. > > > > > > > > XWT uses XMLRPC to communicate with a backend (in this case Zope). > > > > > > > > XWT expects an Error 401 is authentication is required on an XMLRPC > > > > call, so that it can negotiate the correct auth method > > > > > > > > The author of XWT sent the following email to me > > > > > > > > >Tim, I've got a piece of the answer -- your server needs to return an > > > > >HTTP 401 (Unauthorized) if no username/password is provided. This > > > > >response includes the challenge that XWT needs in order to build an > > > > >authentication request (realm, digest nonce challenge, etc). > > > > > > > > However what Zope is doing is sending back a <fault> in the > > > > XMLRPC <methodResponse> packet. > > > > > > > > So it appears to me that Zope doesn't send a http response 401 for > > > > XMLRPC (over http), but will send a 401 back to the browser. > > > > > > > > XMLRPC doesn't say anything about authentication, so I suppose either > > > > method is acceptable. However because XMLRPC is implemented > > > > on top of http, I would have thought a http approach (ie error 401) > > > > would be used. > > > > > > > > It appears that this behaviour is fundamental to Zope and is not an > > > > artifact of cookie auth in CMF etc.. > > > > > > > > Is this really correct behaviour ? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Tim Hoffman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > > > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > > > (Related lists - > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev > > > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > > > (Related lists - > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > > > http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > import string, xmlrpclib, httplib > > from base64 import encodestring > > > > class BasicAuthTransport(xmlrpclib.Transport): > > verbose = 0 > > > > def __init__(self, username=None, password=None): > > self.username=username > > self.password=password > > > > def request(self, host, handler, request_body, verbose=0): > > # issue XML-RPC request > > > > h = httplib.HTTP(host) > > h.putrequest("POST", handler) > > > > # required by HTTP/1.1 > > h.putheader("Host", host) > > > > # required by XML-RPC > > h.putheader("User-Agent", self.user_agent) > > h.putheader("Content-Type", "text/xml") > > h.putheader("Content-Length", str(len(request_body))) > > > > # basic auth > > if self.username is not None and self.password is not None: > > h.putheader("AUTHORIZATION", "Basic %s" % string.replace( > > encodestring("%s:%s" % (self.username, self.password)), > > "\012", "")) > > h.endheaders() > > > > if request_body: > > h.send(request_body) > > > > errcode, errmsg, headers = h.getreply() > > > > if errcode != 200: > > raise xmlrpclib.ProtocolError( > > host + handler, > > errcode, errmsg, > > headers > > ) > > > > return self.parse_response(h.getfile()) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )