[Chris McDonough] >> Currently, Zope still claims it works with 2.2.X (via the configure >> script's "acceptable versions" feature).
Actually, 2.2, 2.2.1, and 2.2.2 aren't acceptable for Zope even now, because of Zope-critical Python bugs first fixed in 2.2.3. There's no version of 2.2 with a fix for the rare RH9 Unicode-segfault bug Jeremy stumbled into a few weeks ago (while running Zope tests), and there may never be. >> Should we continue to make that claim true by not depending on any >> Python 2.3-specific features in the Zope core? I don't think >> there are a lot of super-compelling core and/or library differences >> between Pythons 2.3.2 and 2.2.3 that would make this a hardship on >> core Zope developers. I don't know whether it's a hardship for anyone to install 2.3.2 but not to install 2.2.3. Seems unlikely <wink>. In the spambayes project, we've found that people just can't stop themselves from using the new-in-2.3 enumerate() builtin, and the new-in-2.3 Sets module. They're generally useful. Since 2.2.3 is slower and buggier than 2.3.2, and may be the last of the 2.2 line, I'm not sure we'd be doing anyone a real favor by facilitating hanging on to 2.2.3. [Fred L. Drake, Jr.] > Requiring 2.3 (any flavor) would allow us to drop the copy of the > logging package from Zope 2.7 and newer. > > There are greater benefits for Zope 3, where we have several modules > and packages laying around that would no longer be needed (logging, > csv, gettext). Plus I copy 2.3's strptime.py module into Zope3 now (and have to edit it each time I synch up to get rid of its enumerate() call), and Zope3 has a different all-Python implementation of the new-in-2.3 all-C datetime module. The C version of datetime is more desirable due to its comparative memory frugality. One more: We're trying to move toward replacing ExtensionClass with new-style classes. This is straightforward under 2.3, but there's still a relevant glitch in 2.2.3 that appears to make it much harder (that's why the code on zodb3-devel-branch works fine under 2.3 but segfaults left and right under 2.2.3; zodb3-devel-branch is quiet now, but will probably become important again). > I also don't know that we should consider 2.3.1 "acceptable" for any > version of Zope. 2.3.1 is missing os.fsync() on POSIX systems (a gross mistake that snuck into 2.3.1), and MvL's arguments notwithstanding, ZODB wants to use os.fsync() on POSIX systems. 2.3.1 was a mistake, but a mistake that got fixed quickly. _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )