Re: [Zope-dev] Specify a domain and leave the password for a user blank

Andreas Jung Tue, 09 Mar 2004 04:33:37 -0800

I think you are describing a flaw that had been removed in older versions.
Does not sound like a feature but like a bug...

-aj

--On Dienstag, 9. März 2004 13:31 Uhr +0100 Juan Javier Carrera Obrero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

In Zope 2.4 or older versions when a user is created, if you specify a
domain and leave the password for a user blank, then anyone from the
permitted domains automatically gets the user's roles without having to
log in.

However, it is not possible in Zope 2.7. I have created a user specifying
a domain and leave the password for this user blank, and although I am in
the domain, I have to log in.

Anybody help me about it ? How can I create a user, specifying a domain,
and if the user is in the domain does not have to log in?

Thanks.-


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 20:05:04 +0100
From: Dieter Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Unexpected Behaviour iterating over
catalog search...
To: Jean Jordaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jean Jordaan wrote at 2004-3-8 16:33 +0200:
>>> Surely the thing returned by a Catalog search should be immutable?
>>
>> Nope, it is "lazy";  immutability would require "realizing" it first,
>> which would be prohibitively expensive in many cases.
>
> Yes .. thing is, wrapping with list() or tuple() will therefore
> also be prohibitive in those cases,

When you want to uncatalog everything, "tuple"ing the result should
not be a problem.

Otherwise, a standard approach is to remember the objects you
want to delete in a standard list and iterate over this list
in a separate loop (outside the first one).

--
Dieter

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 08:54:54 +0700
From: Sake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Zope-dev] Zopeservice and sitecustomize
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi,

I have Zope and Activestate Python installed together in the same win-xp
machine.  Everything works fine until I've learned that I can put
"sys.setdefaultencoding('cp874')" into sitecustomize.py to accomodate my
native language coding.  Since I do that, my Zope 2.7.0 service can no
longer start.  I can start it manually from "runzope.bat", but it never
start through the windows system service. A full day investigation
reveal that the trouble cause by the missing of the
'<SOFTWARE_HOME>\lib\python' in the system environment's "PYTHONPATH".
The "runzope.bat" set that up before then execution of
"Zope.Startup.run.py", hence it run fine. But "zopeservice.py" rely on
the "<SOFTWARE_HOME>\bin\Lib\site-packages\sitecustomize.py" to set up
the correct "PYTHONPATH". Here is the code inside Zope's sitecustomize.py

""" Add Zope packages in Windows binary distro to sys.path automagically

"""

import sys
import os
try:
    sp = __file__
except:
    sp = None
if sp:
    dn = os.path.dirname
    swhome = os.path.join(dn(dn(dn(dn(sp)))), 'lib', 'python')
    if os.path.exists(swhome):
        sys.path.insert(0, swhome)

Unluckily, this sitecustomize.py is now masked with my sitecustomize.py
inside Activestate's site-package directory, which actually get loaded
by Zope via the Python registry load path
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Python\PythonCore\2.3\PythonPath) instead
of the expected one.

I don't think setting up PYTHONPATH inside sitecustomize.py is a good
idea. Better keep this mechanism for site specific problems.  I'd rather
insert a line into zopeservice.py like this.

import os.path
from os.path import dirname as dn
import sys

# these are replacements from mkzopeinstance
PYTHONW = r'C:\Zope-2.7.0\bin\pythonw.exe'
SOFTWARE_HOME=r'C:\Zope-2.7.0\lib\python'
INSTANCE_HOME = r'C:\Zope-MIB'
ZOPE_HOME = r'C:\Zope-2.7.0'

ZOPE_RUN = r'%s\Zope\Startup\run.py' % SOFTWARE_HOME
CONFIG_FILE= os.path.join(INSTANCE_HOME, 'etc', 'zope.conf')
PYTHONSERVICE_EXE=r'%s\bin\PythonService.exe' % ZOPE_HOME

sys.path.insert(0, SOFTWARE_HOME)
os.environ['PYTHONPATH'] = SOFTWARE_HOME  <---------------- inserted line

from nt_svcutils.service import Service

servicename = 'Zope_%s' % str(hash(INSTANCE_HOME))

class InstanceService(Service):
    start_cmd = '"%s" "%s" -C "%s"' % (PYTHONW, ZOPE_RUN, CONFIG_FILE)
    _svc_name_ = servicename
    _svc_display_name_ = 'Zope instance at %s' % INSTANCE_HOME
    _exe_name_ = PYTHONSERVICE_EXE

if __name__ == '__main__':
    import win32serviceutil
    win32serviceutil.HandleCommandLine(InstanceService)

This is much more palatable in my opinion.

------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 22:14:10 -0500
From: Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zopeservice and sitecustomize
To: Sake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 20:54, Sake wrote:

> Everything works fine until I've learned that I can put
> "sys.setdefaultencoding('cp874')" into sitecustomize.py

I assume you created a new sitecustomize.py to hold this in your
activestate Python's library directory, then?

>   I can start it manually from "runzope.bat", but it never
> start through the windows system service. A full day investigation
> reveal that the trouble cause by the missing of the
> '<SOFTWARE_HOME>\lib\python' in the system environment's "PYTHONPATH".
> The "runzope.bat" set that up before then execution of
> "Zope.Startup.run.py", hence it run fine. But "zopeservice.py" rely on
> the "<SOFTWARE_HOME>\bin\Lib\site-packages\sitecustomize.py" to set up
> the correct "PYTHONPATH". Here is the code inside Zope's

sitecustomize.py


This was put here because in my tests I could not make Python recognize
the "right" set of paths by setting an environment variable in the
zopeservice script.

As you probably noticed, Zope does not run in the same Python
interpreter instance as the one that zopeservice.py runs under.
zopeservice.py instead turns around and invokes another Python
interpreter to actually do the running of Zope itself (that's what
"start_cmd" is set for).  Worse, the windows Service code actually
doesn't invoke zopeservice.py directly; it is run as a side effect of
the PythonService.exe executable being run.  Setting a PYTHONPATH via
os.environ in zopeservice was not doing the trick for me (at least on
Win2K); why was unclear, although I think it was because the environment
being modified by setting os.environ within zopeservice is not carried
over to child processes.  A batch file couldn't be used as the target
for the service because the Windows shell doesn't keep track of child
processes in the same way UNIX does: child processes aren't killed when
their parents are and there is no way to 'exec' another command from a
Windows batch file.

> Unluckily, this sitecustomize.py is now masked with my sitecustomize.py
> inside Activestate's site-package directory, which actually get loaded
> by Zope via the Python registry load path
> (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Python\PythonCore\2.3\PythonPath) instead
> of the expected one.

I don't think I understand why this happens.  That's not surprising.
There is some complicated DWIM that Windows Python does when it starts
up to try to guess what should go on sys.path and in what order.  Tim
Peters dug up a comment in Python's code and sent it to me a bit ago
about why this happens.  It can be found in Python's PC/getpathp.c file:

   PATH RULES FOR WINDOWS:
   This describes how sys.path is formed on Windows.  It describes the
   functionality, not the implementation (ie, the order in which these
   are actually fetched is different)

   * Python always adds an empty entry at the start, which corresponds
     to the current directory.

* If the PYTHONPATH env. var. exists, it's entries are added next.

   * We look in the registry for "application paths" - that is, sub-keys
     under the main PythonPath registry key.  These are added next (the
     order of sub-key processing is undefined).
     HKEY_CURRENT_USER is searched and added first.
     HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE is searched and added next.
     (Note that all known installers only use HKLM, so HKCU is typically
     empty)

   * We attempt to locate the "Python Home" - if the PYTHONHOME env var
     is set, we believe it.  Otherwise, we use the path of our host
.EXE's
     to try and locate our "landmark" (lib\\os.py) and deduce our home.
     - If we DO have a Python Home: The relevant sub-directories (Lib,
       plat-win, lib-tk, etc) are based on the Python Home
     - If we DO NOT have a Python Home, the core Python Path is
       loaded from the registry.  This is the main PythonPath key,
       and both HKLM and HKCU are combined to form the path)

   * Iff - we can not locate the Python Home, have not had a PYTHONPATH
     specified, and can't locate any Registry entries (ie, we have
_nothing_
     we can assume is a good path), a default path with relative entries
is
     used (eg. .\Lib;.\plat-win, etc)

  The end result of all this is:
  * When running python.exe, or any other .exe in the main Python
directory
    (either an installed version, or directly from the PCbuild
directory),
    the core path is deduced, and the core paths in the registry are
    ignored.  Other "application paths" in the registry are always read.

  * When Python is hosted in another exe (different directory, embedded
via
    COM, etc), the Python Home will not be deduced, so the core path
from
    the registry is used.  Other "application paths" in the registry are
    always read.

  * If Python can't find its home and there is no registry (eg, frozen
    exe, some very strange installation setup) you get a path with
    some default, but relative, paths.

> From this (and without a Windows machine in front of me), I can't
> really
make any sense out of why your Activestate Python's sitecustomize.py is
being found instead of Zope's Python sitecustomize.py if you're running
Zope using the Zope Python install.  I suspect it may be because of
placement of your sitecustomize.py file and the rule named "We look in
the registry for "application paths"", but that's a guess.

> I don't think setting up PYTHONPATH inside sitecustomize.py is a good
> idea. Better keep this mechanism for site specific problems.  I'd
> rather insert a line into zopeservice.py like this.
>
> import os.path
> from os.path import dirname as dn
> import sys
>
> # these are replacements from mkzopeinstance
> PYTHONW = r'C:\Zope-2.7.0\bin\pythonw.exe'
> SOFTWARE_HOME=r'C:\Zope-2.7.0\lib\python'
> INSTANCE_HOME = r'C:\Zope-MIB'
> ZOPE_HOME = r'C:\Zope-2.7.0'
>
> ZOPE_RUN = r'%s\Zope\Startup\run.py' % SOFTWARE_HOME
> CONFIG_FILE= os.path.join(INSTANCE_HOME, 'etc', 'zope.conf')
> PYTHONSERVICE_EXE=r'%s\bin\PythonService.exe' % ZOPE_HOME
>
> sys.path.insert(0, SOFTWARE_HOME)
> os.environ['PYTHONPATH'] = SOFTWARE_HOME  <---------------- inserted

line

>
> from nt_svcutils.service import Service
>
> servicename = 'Zope_%s' % str(hash(INSTANCE_HOME))
>
> class InstanceService(Service):
>     start_cmd = '"%s" "%s" -C "%s"' % (PYTHONW, ZOPE_RUN, CONFIG_FILE)
>     _svc_name_ = servicename
>     _svc_display_name_ = 'Zope instance at %s' % INSTANCE_HOME
>     _exe_name_ = PYTHONSERVICE_EXE
>
> if __name__ == '__main__':
>     import win32serviceutil
>     win32serviceutil.HandleCommandLine(InstanceService)
>
>
>
> This is much more palatable in my opinion.

Does this work?  On all of W2K, Win98, and WinXP?  If so, I'd be glad to
ditch the current munging of sitecustomize.py.  As I said, it wasn't
working for me, at least on Win2K.

- C

------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 22:27:27 -0500
From: "Tim Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] Zopeservice and sitecustomize
To: "Sake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

[Sake]
> I have Zope and Activestate Python installed together in the same
> win-xp machine.  Everything works fine until I've learned that I can
> put "sys.setdefaultencoding('cp874')" into sitecustomize.py to
> accomodate my native language coding.  Since I do that, my Zope 2.7.0
> service can no longer start.  I can start it manually from
> "runzope.bat", but it never start through the windows system service.
> A full day investigation reveal that the trouble cause by the missing
> of the '<SOFTWARE_HOME>\lib\python' in the system environment's
> "PYTHONPATH". The "runzope.bat" set that up before then execution of
> "Zope.Startup.run.py", hence it run fine. But "zopeservice.py" rely on
> the "<SOFTWARE_HOME>\bin\Lib\site-packages\sitecustomize.py" to set up
> the correct "PYTHONPATH". Here is the code inside Zope's
> sitecustomize.py
>
> """ Add Zope packages in Windows binary distro to sys.path
> automagically """ import sys
> import os
> try:
>     sp = __file__
> except:
>     sp = None
> if sp:
>     dn = os.path.dirname
>     swhome = os.path.join(dn(dn(dn(dn(sp)))), 'lib', 'python')
>     if os.path.exists(swhome):
>         sys.path.insert(0, swhome)
>
> Unluckily, this sitecustomize.py is now masked with my
> sitecustomize.py inside Activestate's site-package directory, which
> actually get loaded by Zope via the Python registry load path
> (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Python\PythonCore\2.3\PythonPath) instead
> of the expected one.

It's actually a different bug: Python normally never looks at the value

of

the PythonPath registry key, and that's not why your sitecustomize.py is
found first.  That's actually a side effect of ActiveState installing
win32all:  if you look *under*
HKLM\Software\Python\PythonCore\2.3\PythonPath, you'll find subkeys
Pythonwin, win32, and win32com.  It's actually the win32com subkey that

puts

your ActiveState Python's lib\site-packages into sys.path. It's then a

bug

in Zope that it lets that dirty trick hide its own lib\site-packages:

Zope

ships with its own Python, and *intends* to insulate you completely (in

both

directions) from whatever other Python(s) you may happen to have
installed on the machine.  So when that bug gets fixed, your
sitecustomize.py will never get executed.

BTW, sys.setdefaultencoding() is almost never a good solution; working

with

Unicode instead usually is.

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 22:35:20 -0500
From: "Tim Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] Zopeservice and sitecustomize
To: "Chris McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sake"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

[Chris McDonough]
> ...
> From this (and without a Windows machine in front of me), I can't
> really make any sense out of why your Activestate Python's
> sitecustomize.py is being found instead of Zope's Python
> sitecustomize.py if you're running Zope using the Zope Python install.
> I suspect it may be because of placement of your sitecustomize.py file
> and the rule named "We look in the registry for "application paths"",
> but that's a guess.

Yes, and the "application path" is specifically win32com, which

ActiveState

installed.  That has the side effect of putting the ActiveState Python's
Lib/site-packages into sys.path, and it so happens that it ends up before
Zope's Lib/site-packages.  That's why Sake's sitecustomize.py is found
first.  It also so happens that all of ActiveState's win32all appears

before

any of Zope's attempt to supply its own win32all, so there are multiple

bugs

here.  AFIAK, these subtle sys.path glitches are in all of Zope Corp's
Windows offerings, except for the very recent ZRS-for-Windows 1.4
release.

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 10:21:31 +0000
From: Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Unexpected Behaviour iterating over
catalog search...
To: Jean Jordaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Jean Jordaan wrote:

> for brain in Catalog(some_index=some_value):
>     # delete the object, and then
>     brain_to_delete = Catalog(unique_index=brain.unique_prop)
>     Catalog.uncatalog_object(brain_to_delete.getPath())
>
> .. can't really think why that would work if Chris's original
> doesn't, though.

...it won't, this is analagous to the code I have that fails.

cheers,

Chris

--
Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting
            - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 13:36:33 +0200
From: "Alex V. Koval" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: BTrees strangeness (was [Zope-dev] Zope
2.X BIG Session problems - blocker - our site dies - need help of
experience Zope developer, please)
To: "Chris McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r"

Hi Chris,

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:08:01 -0500, Chris McDonough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>> I am monitoring site now, and will tell you about the results.
> OK, many thanks!

Running For: 3 days 4 hours 28 min 29 sec.

I have enabled 400 error_log ex exceptions to keep, and during 3 days I
got 2 errors
on the site:

Time Username (User Id) Exception
16:35:01 Anonymous User (None) KeyError: 1078763620
21:59:05 Anonymous User (None) KeyError: 1078696720

But it seems I forget to install new Transience module to the new Zope
instance. Should I?

--
Alex V. Koval
http://www.halogen-dg.com
http://www.zwarehouse.org
-------------- next part --------------
Traceback (innermost last):
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  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
  Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 128, in __call__
   - <DTMLDocument instance at 41c05e90>
   - URL: http://www.chalkface.com/custom/index_html/manage_main
   - Physical Path: /www.chalkface.com/ZWarehouse_0.8/custom/index_html
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
  Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 121, in __call__
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   - Physical Path: /www.chalkface.com/ZWarehouse_0.8/custom/index.html
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 76, in render
  Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 121, in __call__
   - <DTMLDocument instance at 41be5290>
   - URL:

http://www.chalkface.com/catalog/html/zwarehouse_html_header/manage_main

- Physical Path:

/www.chalkface.com/ZWarehouse_0.8/catalog/html/zwarehouse_html_header

  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
   - __traceback_info__: cart_functions
  Module <string>, line 1, in <expression>
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec
  Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 318, in _exec
  Module None, line 16, in setSessionByRequest.py
   - <PythonScript at

/www.chalkface.com/ZWarehouse_0.8/catalog/cart_functions/setSessionByRequ
est .py>

   - Line 16
  Module ZPublisher.HTTPRequest, line 1218, in __getattr__
  Module ZPublisher.HTTPRequest, line 1178, in get
  Module Products.Sessions.SessionDataManager, line 93, in getSessionData
  Module Products.Sessions.SessionDataManager, line 180, in

_getSessionDataObject

  Module Products.Transience.Transience, line 176, in new_or_existing
  Module Products.Transience.Transience, line 809, in get
KeyError: 1078696720
-------------- next part --------------
Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 100, in publish
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
  Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 128, in __call__
   - <DTMLDocument instance at 41c0a440>
   - URL: http://www.chalkface.com/custom/index.html/manage_main
   - Physical Path: /www.chalkface.com/ZWarehouse_0.8/custom/index.html
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Let, line 76, in render
  Module OFS.DTMLDocument, line 121, in __call__
   - <DTMLDocument instance at 41be5290>
   - URL:

http://www.chalkface.com/catalog/html/zwarehouse_html_header/manage_main

- Physical Path:

/www.chalkface.com/ZWarehouse_0.8/catalog/html/zwarehouse_html_header

  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_String, line 474, in __call__
  Module DocumentTemplate.DT_Util, line 201, in eval
   - __traceback_info__: cart_functions
  Module <string>, line 1, in <expression>
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec
  Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 318, in _exec
  Module None, line 16, in setSessionByRequest.py
   - <PythonScript at

/www.chalkface.com/ZWarehouse_0.8/catalog/cart_functions/setSessionByRequ
est .py>

   - Line 16
  Module ZPublisher.HTTPRequest, line 1218, in __getattr__
  Module ZPublisher.HTTPRequest, line 1178, in get
  Module Products.Sessions.SessionDataManager, line 93, in getSessionData
  Module Products.Sessions.SessionDataManager, line 180, in

_getSessionDataObject

  Module Products.Transience.Transience, line 176, in new_or_existing
  Module Products.Transience.Transience, line 809, in get
KeyError: 1078763620

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