Oops, nevermind, I see you already did add a collector issue.

On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 03:34, Dieter Maurer wrote:
> Zope 2.7 delays access to log files until Zope is properly set up.
> This means: log files cannot be used to analyse startup problems.
> The official advice to analyse startup problems is to start
> Zope in the foreground and interpret the console log messages.
> However, this does *NOT* work when Zope is not running in
> debug mode. "Zope.Startup.ZopeStarter.setupStartupHandler"
> expressly suppresses messages to "stderr" when Zope
> is not running in debug mode.
> Apparently, we do not have an easy way to analyse startup problems
> for Zope in production mode.
> In my view, this is really bad.
> Please provide a way to control how startup messages should
> be handled. The best place would be a file (at least for
> all installations that do not start Zope as root and later
> switch the effective user).
> I suggest to always use the standard log file unless
> told otherwise by an explicit configuration option.

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