Martin Aspeli wrote:
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
Dieter Maurer wrote:
Whit ("mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]") reported that "AdvancedQuery"
is going to ship with Plone3 and that packaging would be easier for
"AdvancedQuery" were part of the Zope 2 distribution.
I fail to find an explanation *why* that is.
I'm not quite sure it has to be part of Zope 2 as you install it. Having
it in svn.zope.org would go a long, way, though, allowing us to use
svn:externals during development and potentially fix issues ourselves as
Well, ok, I have nothing against that. It's just that that wasn't
* Plone is shipping with lots of products already, I don't see why it
simply can't ship with another one. Seriously, why? Plus, if they're
really trying to solve problems for Plone 3, then it seems to be too
late already. The target platform, Zope 2.10, is feature-frozen since
We will ship with this. I think the original point that made us nervous
is having to get tarballs from dieter.handshake.de, and not having a
access to a repository.
Whether it ships with Zope or not will probably depend on how valuable
people find it. I've not used it myself, but it sounds like it makes the
catalog a bit more powerful and usable.
Well, the Zope 3 catalog is pretty much useless w/o any extra packages
either. But at this point it has become almost trivial to install the
necessary packages such as zc.catalog into your instance (using
easy_install or zc.buildout).
It might not be a popular opinion in Zope 2 land where people would
like to have as much working out of the box as possible, but I think
we oughta think about making Zope 2 rather smaller than bigger (where
"smaller" doesn't mean "ship with less stuff" but "have fewer
inter-dependencies" so that it's better reusable). An Egg-based
deployment mechanism with explicitly defined dependencies will allow
us to do so.
I completely agree with this. On the other hand, as Andreas points out,
if we are monkey patching ZCatalog to address deficiencies, then there
may be reasons for tighter integration.
Sure. Perhaps we can look at those deficiencies and sort those out first.
I think the first step is to move it to the repository and let the
community prod it a little.
I'll be absolutely fine with that.
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