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On 15.02.2009 17:03 Uhr, Tres Seaver wrote:
> Hanno Schlichting wrote:
>> Tres Seaver wrote:
>>> Hanno Schlichting wrote:
>>>> Log message for revision 96569:
>>>>   Lot's of updates over the weekend!
>>> I think it is too premature to be moving the DTML chapters out of the
>>> book:  if we arent just updating the book to be current with 2.12, then
>>> we probably need to discuss what kind of book we want, before chopping
>>> it apart.
>> OK. I wasn't too sure either. I can put them back in, but make it
>> clearer that using ZPT is preferred over DTML for all tasks where it is
>> possible.
> 
> I would rather make the case, explaining the tradeoffs, including the
> fact that the consensus of the community is as you express, but then let
> people make up their own minds.
> 
> DTML is *not* like ZClasses:  it isn't bitrotting through lack of use,
> nor is it scheduled (or ever) likely to be removed from Zope2.  Please
> keep in mind the ZMI / TTW focus of the current book, while you're at
> it:  this book is not aimed at Python / filesystem developers at all,
> but at casual users working on simple TTW apps.

+1.

DTML is still a 1st-class citizen of Zope 2. So the DTML documentation
should remain in place. Both related DTML chapters should perhaps get a
clear preface containing something like the following and/or somehow
marked as "obsolete" Zope techology (obsolete in the sense that we're
having better alternatives):

 - ZPT is the preferred and recommended way for generating HTML or
   markup-ish output
 - DTML playing only a role for ZSQL methods
 - DTML might be used for generating text-ish content (non-HTML, non-XML
   content)
 - DTML should really only be used if there are no other
   alternatives (for ZSQL methods we have SQLAlchemy based integration
   layers)

Andreas
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