I just realized the irony in this:
[Martijn spends a lot of time in trying to solve problems in our
community, bothering to consult lots of people and writing up a document]
> I'm pretty sure a steering group and a rebranding of existing software is not
> going to make us more effective. Here's what I believe would make us more
Bam, all of Martijn's proposals shot dead entirely.
> - discourage the contribution of stop energy (discourage
> the utterances of "don't", "stop", "this is wrong",
> "stop talking about this").
Chris, do you see any irony in this too?
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