Lennart Regebro wrote:
> And it is in any case in no way even remotely connected to the group
> Martijn proposed and has been discussed in this thread.
Of course it is connected. The Zope Framework needs leadership that can
- bless efforts by individuals and subgroups that want to take care of
- help with the coordination between individuals and groups that want to
make changes. The Steering Group will need to keep an overview of what
is going on so they can help point out points where coordination is
- mark status (deprecation ,etc) of particular packages that are part of
the Zope Framework. Note that the Zope Steering group is not about
packages that are not in the framework, so if lovely.remotetask isn't
there, it can say little. The idea is to limit the things that Zope
Framework is about so we can take better care of it. Hopefully it can
provide the infrastructure and encouragement so that others will do this
work however. How this will turn out is a bit of a gray area.
- Individual systems such as Grok, Zope 3, Zope 2 and repoze.bfg each
provide their own complete "programming experience". The Zope Framework
is at best only part of this experience, but it *is* a part of the
experience. We could for instance provide a website with documentation
about framework packages that individual projects could refer to.
- Attracting newbies to web development is not a task of the Zope
Framework project directly, and here I diverge from Hermann. That's a
task of the Plone project or the Grok project, etc. I do think that the
Zope Framework leadership could be much better at attracting and
stimulating contributions to the libraries.
Attracting more users is important, but that's a task for the Zope 3 app
server developers (however they organize) or the Grok project. The Zope
Framework is a second-level provider to these projects, and in reality
of course people who care about these projects will do most of the
driving of development of the Zope Framework. It's a forum where all
users of these libraries (many or just a few) can get together, work out
our diverse interests, and coordinate.
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