Hi there, Lennart Regebro wrote: [snip] > And it is in any case in no way even remotely connected to the group > Martijn proposed and has been discussed in this thread.
Of course it is connected. The Zope Framework needs leadership that can help: - bless efforts by individuals and subgroups that want to take care of particular areas. - help with the coordination between individuals and groups that want to make changes. The Steering Group will need to keep an overview of what is going on so they can help point out points where coordination is necessary. - mark status (deprecation ,etc) of particular packages that are part of the Zope Framework. Note that the Zope Steering group is not about packages that are not in the framework, so if lovely.remotetask isn't there, it can say little. The idea is to limit the things that Zope Framework is about so we can take better care of it. Hopefully it can provide the infrastructure and encouragement so that others will do this work however. How this will turn out is a bit of a gray area. - Individual systems such as Grok, Zope 3, Zope 2 and repoze.bfg each provide their own complete "programming experience". The Zope Framework is at best only part of this experience, but it *is* a part of the experience. We could for instance provide a website with documentation about framework packages that individual projects could refer to. - Attracting newbies to web development is not a task of the Zope Framework project directly, and here I diverge from Hermann. That's a task of the Plone project or the Grok project, etc. I do think that the Zope Framework leadership could be much better at attracting and stimulating contributions to the libraries. Attracting more users is important, but that's a task for the Zope 3 app server developers (however they organize) or the Grok project. The Zope Framework is a second-level provider to these projects, and in reality of course people who care about these projects will do most of the driving of development of the Zope Framework. It's a forum where all users of these libraries (many or just a few) can get together, work out our diverse interests, and coordinate. Regards, Martijn _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )