-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dan Korostelev wrote: > Hi there. > > One of most annoying dependencies is the "zope.app.appsetup" package. > Some packages, like zope.session depend on it just to provide > "boostrap setup" for using these packages in context of "zope3, the > application server", however, they can be greatly used without it, so > this is really awful dependency. > > I saw that, on last sprint, the subscriber for error reporting utility > was moved from zope.error to zope.app.appsetup, so zope.error could > lose the dependency on zope.app.appsetup. So, the first question is: > do we want to move all subscribers like that? It doesn't seem like a > best solution though, because then zope.app.appsetup should depend on > all those packages, like zope.session. :-/
Making the "application" depend on the "libraries" is fine, and the name of the package ('appsetup') suggests that it *should* be the place with all the dependencies: OO frameworks need to have *somebody* wire in the pieces, and that bit is usually the part which runs at startup. > The problem is that the bootstrap code in zope.app.appsetup is really > "zope3, the application"-specific, so it uses "root folders", > persistent site managers, site management containers, > ZopePublication.root_name, and so on. The code itself is okay, because > it provides an easy way to setup misc. components for the "zope3 > application server", but still it's a problem, because it's probably > impossible to refactor it in a application-independent way (until we > provide some cool pluggable application bootstrapping mechanism, which > is probably will become too complex and not needed/used by most > application developers). > > So, the general question is where should we move the bootstrap setup > code? Or, alternatively, we could just leave it in place, but greatly > separate it from another package components and provide > zope.app.appsetup as an "extra" dependency (sigh...). +1 for moving all that stuff into the application. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJvT/E+gerLs4ltQ4RAg3GAJ9+ns3Vos2k3nwLsfJywxYwcrWKuQCgphjG MyH570P+c4JoxhuNBEUDc7k= =ePCM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )