Hi Martin
  

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> [mailto:zope-dev-bounces+dev=projekt01...@zope.org] Im 
> Auftrag von Martin Aspeli
> Gesendet: Montag, 13. April 2009 13:07
> An: zope-dev@zope.org
> Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] who wants to maintain Zope 3?
> 
> Hermann Himmelbauer wrote:
> 
> > -1 from my standpoint. Two of my projects are fully based 
> on the Zope 
> > 3 server, and switching to something else would be quite some pain.
> 
> FWIW, I think you're absolutely right. We can't just declare 
> it "dead" 
> because it is convenient to our goal of having clearer 
> definitions about what we're working with.
> 
> A piece of open source software is dead if no-one uses it and 
> no-one maintains it. At least then, existing users can't 
> count on bug fixers or security fixes.
> 
> I think Martijn's point in starting this thread was to try to 
> identify who wants to maintain Zope 3 as an app server and as 
> something that gets released going forward. Let's give those 
> people a chance to respond.
> 
> Declaring things dead has a tendency to become a 
> self-fulfilling prophecy, and probably not something we 
> should do lightly.

This sounds much better then the earlier mails ;-)

I'm willing to help to find a way to move the old code
parts to a newer and better concept.

Note, I don't use this code in my own projects and I don't 
propose to do that just for fun. But if someone proposes
to do it, I'm willing to help.

I think we have to support a smooth migration path for the
old ZMI views and we can't just skip them.

Releasing a Zope 3 app server is another part. I'm not sure
if Stephan Richter, he told once, will support it for the future?

I still think the Grok, Repoze, Plone, Zope 2 and Zope 3
developer should talk together and find a concept and see
how we can find a code base which will fit for each other.
This probably only means that we move the zmi part out of the
existing zope.* and z3c.* packages. And each project could
offer a own management concept and views for the same code base.

Regards
Roger Ineichen

> Martin
> 
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