I had a "rethinking interfaces" talk accepted.  It's about the  
positives and negatives of zope.interface and zope.component, driven  
primarily from the perspective and experience of the Launchpad team,  
and myself in particular; and about changes that might be made or  
differences we are interested in.

It is an advocacy piece only in the sense that we are saying that, by- 
and-large, we like what the packages give us, but it is more  
challenging than that.  It's an interesting pairing to Jeff Shell's  
invited talk, which appears to cover some of the same ground from more  
of an advocacy/tutorial perspective.  I was honestly a bit surprised  
that mine was accepted when Jeff's was already scheduled, but maybe  
mine is "the dark side" version of his talk. :-)

Gary


On Nov 3, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Chris McDonough wrote:

> So were any Zope talks/tutorials accepted?
>
> FWIW, Tres had a BFG talk accepted, and Carlos had a BFG talk and a  
> BFG
> tutorial accepted.  I proposed a talk about profiling that didn't  
> make it.
>
> The TG guys had one talk accepted.
>
> Not sure about Pylons.
>
> I assume Django had a bunch, but I don't know for sure.
>
> - C
>
>
> Martijn Faassen wrote:
>> Chris McDonough wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> Another way to avoid this in the future besides joining the  
>>> committee would be
>>> for notable members of the Zope community to reach out on a  
>>> regular (daily)
>>> basis to other Python-using communities.  Offer them well- 
>>> documented software,
>>> visit their sprints and conferences, try their alphas, join their  
>>> IRC channels,
>>> participate in their maillists and so on.  It's harder to do  
>>> intercommunity
>>> politics daily in this way as opposed to "facing off" yearly, but  
>>> it will have
>>> a higher, more lasting payoff.
>>
>> I'm very much in agreement on this. Blogging is another way to reach
>> out. Reach out and interact.
>>
>> It's indeed hard work to do this right. I am sitting on a few  
>> pieces of
>> software that are either interesting to non-Zope people or in fact
>> directly usable, but I haven't had the time yet to blog about them. I
>> intend to start blogging on a more regular basis again soon.
>>
>>> It's "who you know", not "what you know" unfortunately, even in  
>>> open source, as
>>> much as we like to believe in meritocracy.
>>
>> That's true too. I'm a natural noise-maker, and I discovered that  
>> while
>> as a result of this I embarrass myself in public on a regular  
>> basis, it
>> also means a lot of people know who I am. That's a good thing.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Martijn
>>
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