I agree and support Martijn's strategy.

There are *many* Zope 3 users who are not visible on this discussion.

For example, these CMS are based on Zope 3, as you can find the word on the 

Not only them, but more Zope 3 based systems exist which are not exposed on 

I think ZTK community needs to think about them.  In other words, 
Some directions should be provided to them when ZTK 1.0 gets released.

Probably, many Zope 3 users are not participating community nor subscribing 
this mailing list. 
But developers who are developing *foundation* software need to consider *big* 
world beyond directly visible scope.

I am not a programmer, but I have translated philikon's web component 
development book.

Takeshi Yamamoto

On Jan 4, 2010, at 5:51 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:

> I think everybody can agree that this is 
> within the ZTK mandate for the time being, as zopeapp clearly exists and 
> is being used by a significant amount of people. (I'd like to work to 
> retire it by making it used by far less people)

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