My name is Mats, I've visited #zope-dev under the nick gnosis.  I've long
been a fan of Zope but very inactive in the community.  I'm not much of a
programmer and always had a hard time grepping Zope2.  Zope3 has made great
strides to develop simple stuff like content object etc, I still have a hard
time with more advanced stuff like workflow, memberships, catalog (I know
these might seem like trivial stuff to the likes of you ;)

I've spoken to J1m and emailed Stephan and asked if there was anything I
could do with helping this along, ideas, organization, editing, etc.  I'm
with Martijn that the site should itself be marketing for Zope3 technology
and should be geared towards all levels of knowledge on Zope technology.

I'd love to see a much more extensive section with how-tos, recipes, and
tutorials.  If I can conquer Zope we should have hit the bottom of the
proficiency scale :)  Perhaps I can get there by helping with those specific

Would there be any chance that a message board could be included directly on
the site for support?  Perhaps take Stephan's messageboard tutorial?  This
would showcase Zope3 and add more layers of support.  Perhaps this could be
synced with the zope-user mail list?  Just make it easier to get quick help
without the somewhat tedious process of getting running on the list.

Anyhow, I'm really happy to see the discussion.



-----Original Message-----
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Martijn Faassen
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:27 AM
To: Reinoud van Leeuwen
Subject: Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope3 website report?

Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 03:53:23PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
>>Perhaps we can come up with a similar scenario as what we think is going
>>to happen with Zope 2 and Zope 3. Zope 2 is the old, hard to maintain
>>system here, Zope 3 the new cool system. We intend to improve Zope 2 by
>>adding in Zope 3 pieces, and eventually start replacing parts of it with
>>Zope 3 technology. In the foggy future, Zope 2 and Zope 3 become
>>profiles of the same Zope system, until the differences have gone away.
> Do you mean that the site should run Zope3? Do mature Z3 
> applications exist for this?

I think a site about Zope 3 should ideally run Zope 3. Since there's 
indeed not much mature in the way of CMS software for Zope 3, and since 
I've seen reasonable results reached with wiki software to manage sites 
about open source projects, I figured using a Z3 wiki to manage the site
would be doable.

Then again, the sprinters apparently have a quite different idea of what 
'' will be than myself and some others on the mailing list. 
Their goal seems to be to replace the component architecture wiki. This 
is not a very important priority to me; the wiki is only in use by a few 
core Zope 3 developers and in its present state is an anti-marketing tool.


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