On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:38:03 -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: >> I think that the idea of giving Zed its own, distinct identity is great. >> Zope 3 is a _huge_ overhaul and it needs to be obvious to the world that >> it is dramatically better than crufty old Zope 2. Zope 3 then becomes the >> Zed application server; Zope 2 is getting Zed retrofits via Five, and the >> two will eventually converge into Zope 5 (or Zope 2.27 or whatever). > > Ooops. OK I guess I was clear as mud. :) My idea for "Z", pronounced "zed" > or whatever the naming gods decide is that it was *not* an app server. > It is an un-app-server. :) A collection of technologies that are useful > by themselves, to support an app server and useful to build non-app-server > applications, web or otherwise.
No, I think I understood you. I was being sloppy in my use of language. I should have said something more like "Zope 3 then becomes an application server built around the Zed library". > I think that Z3 is better than Z2 in a lot of ways. I also think that > Z2 is more mature and complete. I really want us to combine those efforts. > I think we've achieved enough and learned enough with Zope 3 that we > can now bring that to bear and make Zope 2 better, refactoring the cruft > away and applying the lessons we've learned with Zope 3. (Note that Zope 3 > is not crust free.) I don't really care what this thing ends up being called, > except that it *must* be called Zope. Yes, I agree. "Zope" is the app server. I think that is consistent with the past use of the brand. > This paragraph makes me think I was clear. Yes, we need to follow Ian > Bicking's > advice and release our technology in bite-sized chunks. I'm hopeful that the > packaging efforts underway will lead to more of that. Yes, and the use of the new name "Z" or "Zed" is a way to emphasize that the Zed library is NOT a big, monolithic app server; rather, it's something new and cool. Geoff _______________________________________________ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3email@example.com Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com