Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 10.01.2007, 00:44 +0000 schrieb Martin Aspeli: > Code generation sucks. :) > > But: > > - ArchGenXML (hacky though it is) is great for business types because > it takes UML (which business analysts understand and customers can be > talked through) and produces content types they can CRUD with. > Seriously, I've seen people sell big Plone jobs on AGX (kinda scary). > > - Don't invent a new code generator. Please. :) PasteScript does quite > well, and seems to be adopted by others, e.g. Pylons. We already use it > to make new egg-like packages for Plone. > > - You should never, ever *need* code generation. It should be a nice > way of getting a common structure for second-order stuff like > documentation files and egg metadata (how we use ZopeSkel/paster in > Plone), or a way of going from a visual representation to code. Systems > that *depend* on generators are always nasty to maintain, upgrade and > understand. Tools are just not a replacement for good language design > (this is why we see the Java->Rails exodus cliche, and then people > realise Rails has tools too, oh well).
We've been talking a bit about using Paste to create initial project environments (e.g. bootstrap a buildout that has grok and Zope 3 in it and setup your subversion environment). This is one of the things on our 1.0 list ... Have a look at launchpad.net/grok for more. Christian -- gocept gmbh & co. kg - forsterstraße 29 - 06112 halle/saale - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 345 122 9889 7 - fax +49 345 122 9889 1 - zope and plone consulting and development
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