On 5 Jun 2008, at 11:53 , Peter Bengtsson wrote:
2008/6/5 Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
Suppose you've written this:
foo = zope.schema.TextLine(title="Foo")
then you get the error below.
First of all, why can't it just help me and just convert the str
unicode. All it'd need to do is just::
title = unicode(title)
Django does this.
If someone does something bad like `TextLine(title="Ölmage")` that
developer should rightly get a UnicodeDecodeError.
Secondly, if there is an actual reason for this extreme analism, why
can't the error be wrapped into something more user friendly?
Very good points. I think UnicodeDecodeErrors have a bad
(mostly because of Python's stupid implicit conversion). I think
policy is very sane in this regard: wherever human-readable text
has to be
entered, either a unicode object or a string just containing ASCII
characters are acceptable. A very explicit error message stating
policy should be raised. Look at Grok's error messages, we've tried
making them understandable.
This was actually Grok development. But the interface and schema part
is all zope3.
I should have posted to zope3-dev instead.
zope-dev (my mistake to suggest zope3-dev, it's been dead for a while
I think a proposal on zope3-dev (plus a patch) would be welcomed.
I'm not sure how to write the proposal. Can't I just make a feature
request on launchpad or something?
An email to zope-dev would be the best. Writing a proposal is easy, it
can be done in a couple of paragraphs:
1. State the current situtation
2. Identify the problem that you have with the current situation
3. Suggest a solution
4. Identify potential risks
P.S.: As you may have noticed, zope.schema fields use fields
themselves to define the types of their attributes/parameters. For
instance, the 'title' and 'description' arguments are
zope.schema.TextLines. So, in order to make those parameters accept
both unicode and pure ASCII, there are two choices:
a) change zope.schema.Text and TextLine to accept both unicode and str
objects, as long as the 'str' object contained just ASCII (-> validate
and _validate methods)
b) introduce another schema field that has the aforementioned
properties, thus leaving Text and TextLine unchanged.
I personally prefer a), but there might be good reasons to do b).
Definitely something worth discussing in your proposal :).
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