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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, J. Atwood
>> Just wondering if Zope.org is an appropriate site for alpha testing
>> software when it should be show casing Zope technology.
>> One gets a bad impression when visiting the site of a web server company
>> to find the web server down :-(
>Ever been to Dell.com? Dell, as you know is one of the biggest users of
>Windows 2000 and MSQL 7.0 for their website. They have tens if not hundreds
>of servers. 
>On several occasions, while surfing around the support site looking to fix
>one Dell problem the site starts giving ODBC SQL error after error.
>Everything just stops working (IE 5.0 on NT 4.0 SP6a). This is at least
>three times in the last month.

But they're not promoting a web server technology.

>Bank of America, the second largest bank in the country (and my bank) has
>been known to go down for a whole weekend on a few occasions with nothing
>more than a splash page to say "tough."


>Wouldn't you assume that with millions of dollars in hardware/software and
>hundreds of developers they could keep a website up? Nope.

I think there are different scales of activity here.  Can we compare
them with a Zope site that is under a similar load, and has a similar
level of complexity?

>Zope.org, as you might not know is run on a machine that costs under $1,200
>and has a better uptime than both the above examples. Lets cut DC a little
>slack on this one and realize that when you are running on one machine, you
>do have to bring things down once in awhile.

Yes, for maintenance.  I was just wondering whether it should be allowed
to happen because of alpha testing.

>DC also walks the walk. They use, love, embrace, support and pound on Zope.
>Bringing Zope to ZEO is a great idea and we should have it no other way. At
>least they are not Hotmail (owned by MS) and running on FreeBSD!

I believe that that remains a constant source of embarrassment to MS.

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Regards,  Graham Chiu
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