Thanks for the feed back. I didn't expect the responses i got from a post
I like some of the suggestions. Some one mentioned he used Zope 2 as
for his Python scripts. He used Python as much as possible for logic and
used DTML and ZPT to view the results. i like this approach.
I'll stick with Zope 2 to continue the learning curve.
I wanted to answer some questions asked by Martijn Fassen
regarding grok and what I liked about Zope 2.
I do like the Zope 2 ZMI. It helps organize visually your MVC. I do like
coding TTW and seeing a
template file or controller all organized in a project directory and testing
live just by clicking the link. I
also like the "ADD" feature. It list all the products/components you can add.
It would be nice to have
this in Grok since i don't know what is out there to add and what they do.
And "add" feature with a description/docs and simple code example
would be nice. Example would be the the "formlib".
a database connection(relational) helper would be helpful too. I don't
think i'll be diving into the ZODB
right now for 2 reasons. There isn't a whole lot of ZODB docs and what
happens if i create a project at
work ( i,e, asset tracking ) and the other programmers in the office only
know SQL . If i have all me data
is in ZODB how will they be able to get at it? If the asset tracking app
grows i know these other programmers will wont to get to the
data to do some adhoc report. I'll be cooked if they can't get to it
via SQL. Unless there is a way i have not read about yet!
Maybe someone should write some reverse ORM to translate SQL
and query a ZODB database!!! stupid i
I will go through the Grok Tutorials again. i did have a problem
"zope3recipes\winctl.py line 28" no module named win32api.
i may have missed some prerequisite. I'll have to go through it again.
Zope 2 had a nice windows
install .exe package!!!!!!!
The tutorial did have a few steps wrong. Naming the projects and
packages come after module name
and username and password. Not a big deal but i thought i would
my Grok install ended up in c:\python24\scripts\sample
it would be nice if Grok was installed in its own self contained
directory with a self contained version of
the required python version. Just nice to keep it isolated from python 2.5 +.
The more docs and tutorials the better. Nothing in my opinion is more
important to learning and
sticking with a platform. if you run out of docs and tutorials to grow
on you get soured quickly.
once last thing about the ZMI and if it were to make its way to
Grok ( even partially)!
why not have the GMI add some code for you automatically like :
Class Sample(grok.Application, grok.Container):
It would save typing if we could click "New App" and enter "Sample" and
have the MI add the rest of the
small code. Mabe i'm being lazy but Zope 2 seemed to hide this from you.
same with the rest of the controllers and templates
"add" "controller" enter "index". the rest of code is genersted.
"add" "template" template name index.pt.
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