Hello ZOPE community,

we're still developing websites using Zope2 + ZMS3 (www.zms-publishing.com) for 
years now and never ran into any real problems (compared to, let's say, 
Wordpress, typo3, Drupal etc. which had serious security problems over the 
years) and our clients are quite happy with ZMS. 

A few days ago on a barcamp the discussion lead to Zope and the usual comments, 
i.e. "Zope is dead", "I would not use that", "Too complicated", "Too old", 
"Outdated",.... and so on.

My personal opinion is, that Zope2 is still rock-solid and gets the job done. 
I've never heard of any serious issues compared to the big competitors from the 
PHP or Java world. I looked into Pyramid and Django for different projects and 
always came back to Zope2 itself.

I did not ask that question for quite some time now as there was no reason. 
Sure, sometimes we get comments like "never heard of it" etc., but nothing 
serious. Still, are there any specific reasons (beside personal favors) not to 
use Zope2 anymore? Any reason not to use Zope2 + ZODB for new projects? Are 
other frameworks like flask, Django, pyramid etc. that much better compared to 

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