When I started with Zope I loved its Zope Book. It was a super simple amd well documented book with a lot of examples.
Zope3 and all that came later does not have it in my opinion. I saw right now jinja2 and doesn't like. insert code between html code in that way remember me dtml. it was good in its time but ot any more. In resume: ZPT and zope2 are excellent tools for who knows use it. The zope 2 book was a great help. The help in Pascal and visual basic 6 were also good help with many and not-just-see-how-call-the-command examples to learn the language. my 2 cents. 2015-03-10 12:03 GMT-06:00 Tom Gross <itconse...@gmail.com>: > Again, I'm not sure if it is worth the thing but when I talk about > marketing I don't mean just having a website. Everyone has one these days. > Why should anyone visit especially the Zope website? > I mean going to the people and talk to them, blog, tweet, whatever ... > In the medieval times they knew better. The king went to the market to > promote important things and not in his castle ... > The success story of Zope did not start because it was a good product but > it was mentioned in New York Times and people demanded it. > Sales seems to be a taboo word in most OpenSource communities but I think > it is essential to keep software alive. > > -Tom > > > On 09.03.15 07:11, Andreas Jung wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Tom Gross wrote: >> >>> Hello >>> >>> When it comes to Zope people seem to have 2 opinions. (Maybe that's >>> the 2 in the name ;-) ). A lot of people seem to use it (with or >>> even without Plone) and loving it and a lot of people call it dead >>> because there is (almost) no new development. At least on the Zope >>> package itself. I myself like to work with Zope too but I know web >>> development changed in the last couple of years and there are other >>> options around. I don't know if it is worth the thing but to have a >>> future Zope needs >>> >>> - A MAINTAINER!!! - MARKETING! >>> >> >> Oh, we great a not that bad Zope 2 site once in the past. Outcome? Zero. >> >>> - DOCUMENTATION! >>> >> >> Oh, we created a not so bad docs.zope.org site. Outcome? Zero. >> >> - Usability improvements (frameless, responsive ZMI) >>> >> >> Waste of time... >> >> - Technical improvements (Port to Python3, WSGI, ...) >>> >> >> Reasonable but too hard to achieve and it longer it takes the more >> pointless Zope will become. >> >> >>> The technical improvements could be organized/financed with a >>> pledgie the others are possibly harder to solve. >>> >> >> Beat me for my realistic sarcasm but Zope is a zombie. >> >> Andreas >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iQGUBAEBAgAGBQJU/TmsAAoJEADcfz7u4AZjfU4Lv0XWBjruYNV5SaVUg7t9XaAa >> DVk61rQFSIevA3pdREebu6YEJSAvq3kIy8XrbfNGmLkxWArvK5JWOh5tf3qqsfw4 >> W/6y4JGSBQf9KpvgvRhf8ip1vj0Ie45fFnC86dTKBbauIOjeOPC3ZoHFA+2dNVWr >> E/wd421xUxwo03EjGQgCA8HJk3q9S3CXqf55UbVb5K0jwdotG2nYuAXd1C7c3eDN >> IN4n1P6HTQj67B3BOlJlU4d8UtPg5rkazGvps8h6z9as1TXBu9qGUO/RDb14Ry7f >> 9gRFwbq0fq9yI62yK3GruatQXgYx5HW79l7MQu8DsTUAab1aHeuIrPxKUX8wahjO >> MORo8c9sptnvciVcS96cgkO8fBfofECiCdrJmqKPOWxcZOuZ8/uIeZvxJfchNGiH >> 3ltFY96WxL0RE6b9mTxWh7zXKkcBtJkKNmhzNgRd7YhqNdd9do3jdA+W9rZys7wD >> 5Q2LErAI9HIzPQ9SV//83+E2pa1b8GA= >> =mH4E >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org >> https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope >> ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** >> (Related lists - >> https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce >> https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) >> >> > > -- > Author of the book "Plone 3 Multimedia" - http://amzn.to/dtrp0C > > Tom Gross > email..........itconse...@gmail.com > skype.....................tom_gross > web.........http://toms-projekte.de > blog...http://blog.toms-projekte.de > > _______________________________________________ > Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope > ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** > (Related lists - > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce > https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) > -- ________________________________________ Lo bueno de vivir un dia mas es saber que nos queda un dia menos de vida
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