How about one of these:



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Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 5:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [Zopeskel] ZopeSkel v3 refactoring begins

On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Marcos Romero wrote:

> +1 Clayton's idea.
> But can't we use "paster" as basic namespace?
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> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Clayton Parker <> wrote:
>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Cristopher Ewing wrote:
>>> Greetings all,
>>> I have taken the first steps towards a refactoring of ZopeSkel from a 
>>> monolithic package into a federated series of namespace packages.  For 
>>> information on the reasoning behind this move, and the goals of the move, 
>>> please refer to the SPLITTING_PROPOSAL document in the trunk of ZopeSkel:
>> I was reviewing the proposal and had a thought about naming. There is no 
>> real reason to use the zopeskel namespace, especially for the core package. 
>> Shouldn't we make the namespace more inviting to non Zope projects?
>> I took a look on pypi and there are current packages named skel and 
>> skeleton. One abandoned package is called skeletor. It had similar goals way 
>> back when. That would be a fitting name, but would probably be confusing 
>> given there is already a skeletor package.
>> Just thought I'd voice my concern before we got too far into the renaming 
>> process. The ZopeSkel egg could still serve as the all-in-one for Zope/Plone 
>> devs.
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You know, this is a great idea.  It would certainly help with solving the 
problem I'm having at the moment, which is that ZopeSkel the egg installs a 
package called 'zopeskel', which is _not_ a namespace package.  When you try to 
combine that with a bunch of namespace packages called zopeskel.X and 
zopeskel.Y, you end up with a big, yucky mess.  

As for using the 'paster' namespace, I'm inclined not to, since we actually 
intend on deprecating our dependency on the Paste line of packages at some 
point after the breakup is complete.  

Perhaps 'templater', or something like that?

Anyone have good ideas for a namespace?  I'd love to get settled on something 
before I check in my first alpha of the 'zopeskel.core' package (which is 
pretty much ready to go at this point).


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