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> From: philist...@gmail.com
> To: a51@lists.reflextor.com
> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:11:31 +0200
> Subject: Re: [A51] Table distribution
>
> I agree with Lubomir Schmidt. Usenet is not necessary.. There are
> various free alternatives like Torrents, Private/University-Servers and
> Wuala. Maybe it's best we use all three possibilities.
>
> But please, no solutions where you have to pay money for getting access
> to the files.
>
> On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 14:21 +0100, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
> wrote:
> > Usenet is so cheap tho... it's like £5-10 for a month (check out
> > Giganews)... I've used it for like 2-3 years now.. Perhaps it could be
> > a joint effort... Usenet + Wuala + Torrent??
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Lubomir Schmidt
> > <gentoo.lubo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Usenet costs money... i did not like to spend any money for
> > just sharing data...
> >
> > What is also possible is Wuala. With one computer you can get
> > 100GB
> > free online storage. When we all make an a51 group, every one
> > of us
> > could share for free the data.
> >
> > I use wuala for linux distribution development(internal
> > developer
> > group) and share(no traffic limits) and it is great :)
> >
> > I also prefere the server from Axel with 1GB/s and 10TB
> > storage :)
> >
> > please no usenet...
> >
> > 2010/7/25 Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
> > <cal.leem...@simplicitymedialtd.co.uk>:
> >
> > > Usenet is a good idea :)
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Dinos Pastos
> > <dino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> If it was to be uploaded, I suggest Usenet servers where
> > the retention
> > >> is massive and anonymous
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Lubomir Schmidt
> > >> <gentoo.lubo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >> > And in germany i could get 2tb discs for about
> > 122USD(94,50€) and an
> > >> > external case for about 10USD
> > >> >
> > >> > Should we not just make torrents? I could upload at the
> > moment with
> > >> > ~100mbit. That would be the much cheaper and easy way.
> > >> >
> > >> > 2010/7/24 GeleGrodan <gelegro...@gmail.com>:
> > >> >> Those 2TB disks you speak of, are they internal or
> > external?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> If you speak about external, I guess the price isnt
> > better over here in
> > >> >> Sweden:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> External 2TB - ca 182USD
> > >> >> Internal 2TB - ca 142USD
> > >> >> External case - 41USD (USB 2.0/eSATA)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> +Shipping
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Dont know what the shipping costs, what do you pay
> > Peter?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 20:54, Peter Stuge
> > <pe...@stuge.se> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Frank A. Stevenson wrote:
> > >> >>> > I have gotten several requests for having disks
> > shipped, payed for
> > >> >>> > with PayPal. I am not sure I really trust this
> > company to not
> > >> >>> > freeze the accounts if someone complains
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I think that's wise.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> > "ext3 preformatted 2TB disks." I should be able to
> > deliver these at
> > >> >>> > cost for ~250 USD, this includes Norwegian sales tax
> > (25%) which I
> > >> >>> > haven't found a way to defray. But perhaps someone on
> > the list could
> > >> >>> > do better than this and set up shop in a country
> > where overall costs
> > >> >>> > are lower?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Since Norway is outside the EU you'll mostly be
> > exporting, and
> > >> >>> shouldn't charge sales tax. Buyers will likely have to
> > pay import
> > >> >>> duties.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> > And ideally, quality packaging materials are readily
> > available :-)
> > >> >>> > (We have already suffer 1 unfortunate disk crash)
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Suggest ship out by courier (I like UPS) and for
> > packaging materials
> > >> >>> see if the store can ship to you (or whoever does this)
> > with some
> > >> >>> extra packaging.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> //Peter
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