John Chambers wrote:

>Actually, there's a consistent problem that no software has a  chance
>of fixing: Different printers (even of the same model) have different
>borders along the edges that they don't print.  There's no  way  that
>I've  ever  seen  to  ask  a printer for the size of its non-printing
>borders.

It can certainly be done.  Otherwise how would word-processors be
able to let you set the size of the margins?  On the Mac, when the
user does a Page Setup command to set the paper size, the printer
returns a record which is stuffed with information, including two
rectangles which give the size of the paper and the size of the
printable area.

Unfortunately, some Epson printers seem to always return the page
size for the largest paper they can take, rather than the size of
paper which is actually loaded.  This can complicate things a bit,
but the printable area seems always to be correct.

>And when a program like abc2ps is run, it  generally  can't
>know what printer you're going to use. So even if a program could ask
>your printer about its border, it doesn't help; you  could  send  the
>output to a different printer.

Yes, the problem is that in abc2ps you're one stage away from the
printing process, so you're always going to have to get that info
yourself and supply it to the program, rather than have the program
interrogate the printer driver.

>The real solution is to get printers to print the entire  page.   But
>you  pay  extra  for that.  Most people don't even think to ask about
>such things when they buy a printer.  If it's at work,  someone  else
>probably made the purchase decision.  And so on.  It'll probably be a
>very long time before printers all print right up to the edge of  the
>physical page.
>
>You see the same problem with copiers, of course. You can have a nice
>printed page of music, and when you run it through a copier, you find
>that some of the edges fade out.
>
>Good things to bring up when some salesman starts talking  about  the
>high quality of their equipment.

Yeah:-)

Phil Taylor


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